Dragon's Lair Fans - Arcade Lifestyle
General Chat => Arcade Lifestyle => Topic started by: cebulba on March 30, 2014, 07:50:48 PM
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Hi folks,
got a few spare cabinets and while talking to some friends these days (and seeing even Superully puts PC Engines into cabs) - which computer game (e.g. Amiga) deserve an original dedicated arcade?
I would loved to build one from my remaining cabinets. And would be a nice test for my upcoming printer/plotter :)
Katakis as a perfect R-Type Clone comes to my mind....and what about a 3-Player International Karate+ or 2 Player Speedball Sporting game..Shadow of the Beast will make a nice artwork..ahhh..so many options ::)
Speaking of this - which would be the perfect cabinet design according to the members here? Midway, Nintendo etc.?
Normally computer games only need one button.
A Sit Down Wing Commander cabinet would also be my favorite ;-)
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I think a game like Super Frog could work on arcade.. The SOTB series could also work, and the art could look killer!!
The Turrican could defenetely work!
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Not a doubt on my Mind:
Alley Cat, of course the original A8 version.
....and Dropzone. 1 machine exists....made by the developer of the game :)
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Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved ! (see (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxtZUURTHzs)).
Works with two joysticks! Like Robotron.
Damn it, in addition of a dedicated cab, this *awesome* game would also deserve a vector color monitor! :)
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What about Earthworm Jim, that would be a nice Artwork, too.
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Impossible Road.
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Manic Miner/Jet Set Willy.
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Fraxxon
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Ninja (MSX)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QDNNzoTvo0
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I Always loved Novastorm on the pc, and still do, such an awesome space shooter, which is very arcade worthy IYAM :spaceace:
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/Novastorm.jpg) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xjwI5J5Qy4)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xjwI5J5Qy4
Gameplay is awesome, and the music just ROCKS !
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Insanity on the PC Engine:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEzuQN3vmC0
Ofcourse, im a sucker for Berzerk ;)
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Chuckie egg of course
It's crying out to be made into a arcade
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Project-X will be nice :-*
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Amiga jaguar xj220 dedicated sit down twin driving cab :)
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A Sit Down Wing Commander cabinet would also be my favorite ;-)
oh man, such great memories!!! loved to play the first two, after those ... not so much!
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Project-X will be nice :-*
+1 :-* :spaceace:
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nice topic
Castlevania (series) 8 bit
(http://wiimedia.ign.com/wii/image/article/119/1195802/revisiting-castlevania-on-the-nes-20110921005835944.jpg)
imagine this for side art. I know you want it..
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/50/Castlevania_nes_03.png)
Mega Man (series) 8 bit
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-uoGcst2guOY/TWdGamtK-8I/AAAAAAAAAc8/-275Alb4LhY/s400/mega-man-2.e_01.png)
(http://lvls.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/fami-rm2.jpg)
this kind of side art ofcourse
Goonies I or II
(http://www.ign.com/static/test/top100/images/top100_nes_screenshots/75_goonies2.jpg)
side art ofcourse the movie poster
(http://www.movieposter.com/posters/archive/main/46/MPW-23480)
or simply pure black cabinet with skull and letters as side art (or as Marquee ofcourse)
(http://www.gravitywear.com/sites/default/files/styles/gw_product_full/public/goonies_copper_bones_logo.jpg)
Ducktales NES
(https://www.developersaccomplice.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/DuckTalesNES1.jpg)
(http://media.psnstores.com/images/ducktales/boxart/2.jpg)
for side art
Super Mario Bros 3 NES iconic game
completely yellow Nintendo cabinet with this as sideart
(http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20050617211202/uncyclopedia/images/e/ec/SMB3.jpg)
Donkey Kong country, SNES, classic game because of graphics and because its Donkey Kong
(http://images4.alphacoders.com/191/191376.jpg)
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and for Amiga:
Emeralds Mine
(http://www.bd-fans.com/Images/Diamond_Caves_II_big.jpg)
or
Sidewinder
(http://gamesdbase.com/Media/SYSTEM/Commodore_Amiga/Snap/big/Sidewinder_-_1988_-_Mastertronic.jpg)
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Emeralds mine looks like a complete Boulderdash knock-off ?
Boulderdash actually had a "dedicated" cab, the Exidy's Max-a-flex:
http://flyers.arcade-museum.com/?page=flyer&db=videodb&id=2098&image=1
Of course there simply was an Atari 8 bit computer inside running First Star Software games Bristles, Astro Chase and Flip & Flop were the other games. All of them are very good games, except Astro Chase maybe.
http://www.arcadecollecting.com/boulder/boulder.html
Not fond of the colors used for the artwork....but I'd love to have one of those machines.....could play a gazallion of great A8 games on it :)
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Emeralds mine looks like a complete Boulderdash knock-off ?
Boulderdash actually had a "dedicated" cab, the Exidy's Max-a-flex:
http://flyers.arcade-museum.com/?page=flyer&db=videodb&id=2098&image=1
Of course there simply was an Atari 8 bit computer inside running First Star Software games Bristles, Astro Chase and Flip & Flop were the other games. All of them are very good games, except Astro Chase maybe.
http://www.arcadecollecting.com/boulder/boulder.html
Not fond of the colors used for the artwork....but I'd love to have one of those machines.....could play a gazallion of great A8 games on it :)
Thanks for pointing me to that machine :)
Nice build after my Atari VCS kiosk (which comes closer to finish. Update soon.)
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Nice build after my Atari VCS kiosk (which comes closer to finish. Update soon.)
go go go!!! can't wait for an update :)
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@Ronald Regan
1. Castlevania is all ready made for the Vs. and PlayChoice 10 Nintendos...
PC10 Castlevania Konami 1986
(http://www.arcade-museum.com/images/118/1181242065333.png) (http://www.arcade-museum.com/images/118/1181242065334.png)
Vs. Castlevania Nintendo 1987
(http://www.arcade-museum.com/images/118/118124218563.png) (http://www.arcade-museum.com/images/118/118124218565.png)
2. Mega Man III is on PlayChoice 10 by Capcom
(http://www.arcade-museum.com/images/118/1181242137209.png) (http://www.arcade-museum.com/images/118/1181242137210.png)
3. Goonies is all ready made for the Vs. and PlayChoice 10 Nintendos...
PC10 The Goonies Konami 1986
(http://www.arcade-museum.com/images/118/118124212129.png) (http://www.arcade-museum.com/images/118/118124212131.png)
Vs. Goonies Nintendo 1985
(http://www.arcade-museum.com/images/118/1181242185117.png) (http://www.arcade-museum.com/images/118/1181242185119.png)
4. Super Mario Bros. 3 is on PlayChoice 10 by Nintendo.
(http://www.arcade-museum.com/images/118/11812421773.png) (http://www.arcade-museum.com/images/118/11812421774.png)
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I know. I own mostly of those games for my Playchoice10, but thats not dedicated. I meant a dedicated cab for such great games
@Andre, really cool cab, and it is a BoulderDash rip off, but I like it still
(http://flyers.arcade-museum.com/flyers_video/exidy/23453301.jpg)
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that boulder dash cab is pretty cool! Would not mind owning that..
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Boulderdash is a great game, I never knew it was an arcade game until I did a KLOV search before posting to this particular thread.
Played it in MAME, I like the MSX version of the game better
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I know. I own mostly of those games for my Playchoice10, but thats not dedicated. I meant a dedicated cab for such great games
@Andre, really cool cab, and it is a BoulderDash rip off, but I like it still
(http://flyers.arcade-museum.com/flyers_video/exidy/23453301.jpg)
Ah shit, Was to quickly there! And youre right! Would look cool in their own cab!
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hell... that boulder dash would look good down here. did not know that it existed.
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It's pretty crappy that the games are simply timed though...you can actually run the games in MAME this way. So...MAME actually contains a full Atari 8-bit emulator just for these 4 games...
Astro Chase may be a better game than I first thought:
(http://www.atarimania.com/pubs/hi_res/pub_astro_chase.jpg)
Some interesting info I found on Atarimania's GREAT website:
The cartridge version of the game was never meant for home use. It was designed for the Exidy Max-a-Flex cabinet (basically an arcade machine with a 600XL inside) and sold with typical arcade packaging. Unlike the Parker Brothers ROM, it runs on the Atari XL and XE machines.
That's pretty interesting. First Star Software first released the game on tape and disc first, then came the Parker release on cartridge that didn't work on XL's (probably would with the translator disc, but this won't normally work with a cartridge) and then the Exidy Max-A-Flex version that obviously worked on XLs as there was a 600XL inside of the machines. They never built more than 1500 of the machines, it was a major flop.
Found a VERY VERY interesting link about these machines and the games right here....http://allincolorforaquarter.blogspot.nl/2013/08/the-ultimate-so-far-history-of-exidy.html
.....which leads to another unknown and amazing looking machine: Vertigo ! 150 made !
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Amiga Deluxe Galaga!!! ;D
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Thanks for the hints.
Now question comes up - which cabinet design suits best? Taito? Williams? Midway? Capcom? Atari System 1? any original dedicated of a "not game related" company/manufacturer at all?
While Mario Bros 3 could go into a Nintendo standard cabinet, or Duck Tales into a Capcom one...what about other companies like Psygnosis or Thalion?
Sooo many choices.
Or -what would make e.g. an Amiga cabinet Unique speaking of design and placement of monitor/control panels.
P.S.: Right now I was thinking about International Karate+ 3-Player cabinet based on a Rampage and/or Rampart cabinet.
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if you decide to go for Novastorm, the best cabinet would be a AB deluxe ;D
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Could me make an arcade based on a Philips P2000T ;D
It would run (http://wcca1.fortunecity.ws/pix/fraxxon.gif)
Don't be fooled by the Teletext graphics, this is one of the best space shooters ever, beating Galaga with ease.
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I hope it's not too late to join in! I would love to have arcade versions of Dogs of war (Amiga) and Supercars 2.
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I hope it's not too late to join in! I would love to have arcade versions of Dogs of war (Amiga) and Supercars 2.
Nope, not to late.
Dogs of War was awesome, TIMBO(F5) and I could complete it :D :D - it´s like Commando, with a wider selection of weapons :)1
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Project-X will be nice :-*
YES!!!! And why not Body Blows?
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Dogs of War was awesome, TIMBO(F5) and I could complete it :D :D - it´s like Commando, with a wider selection of weapons :)1
Yes, it's quite hard. It would eat people's coins, and make operators happy. :D Without TIMBO+F5 I would die very fast! :oops:
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I also think Galaga 88 for the PC-Engine deserves an arcade. That might sound weird, but it isn't. The game is better than the original arcade version, so we could have another better Galaga arcade based on the PC Engine version.
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I also think Galaga 88 for the PC-Engine deserves an arcade. That might sound weird, but it isn't. The game is better than the original arcade version, so we could have another better Galaga arcade based on the PC Engine version.
Hm.. I played both a lot. What makes the PC Engine-version better in your eyes?
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Archon
(http://retromedia.ign.com/retro/image/article/940/940523/archon_c64_1229996730.jpg)
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Archon
like that?
(http://forums.arcade-museum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=256830&d=1455908317)
(http://forums.arcade-museum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=256831&d=1455908331)
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Archon
like that?
Yes... that was C=64 ver. ...Have you never play it?
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Holy fuck. As much as I like the idea they butchered a Wizard of Wor for this?!
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Hm.. I played both a lot. What makes the PC Engine-version better in your eyes?
1) It is a bit easier, I think that makes it more fun for an occasional game.
2) The music, it sounds so much better than on the arcade.
3) Victory. Again a music thing, on the PC-E you are rewarded with maybe the best ever 8-bit stereo Victory Tune. On the arcade, victory is plain boring, after suffering a way tougher fight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=KO2EekR9uz4#t=1200
This is arcade victory:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=eQtKtLfA5sY#t=697
It was very difficult to find this soundtrack on youtube, almost evert longplayer has the tunes muted. Probably the tunes are recognized by some DMCA take-down bot and therefore muted as preventive measure, whereas the PC Engine tune is probably incognito with all its 8-bit edges.
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Activisions River Raid would be a cool cab ;-) and a great arcade game btw
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Holy fuck. As much as I like the idea they butchered a Wizard of Wor for this?!
Probably not.
Archon it's a mix of action and strategy.
It's a real "chess battle" (..perhaps it's ispired the PC game..) in arcade style.
..I spend many afternoon when I was child in first '80, to try to win a game against C64.... really hard I remember..
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Holy fuck. As much as I like the idea they butchered a Wizard of Wor for this?!
Probably not.
Archon it's a mix of action and strategy.
It's a real "chess battle" (..perhaps it's ispired the PC game..) in arcade style.
..I spend many afternoon when I was child in first '80, to try to win a game against C64.... really hard I remember..
i played Archon for decades back then when I had my Atari XL as a kid. But this cab is a butchered Wizard of Wor for sure.
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Great game Archon! :)
Others with gameplay similar to arcade, are Barbarian and IK+
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d0/Barbarian_(Palace_Software)_-_Gameplay.png)
(http://www.cbmitapages.it/c64/games/IK.gif)
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I forgot Barbarian.
It'd be awesome!!!
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But this cab is a butchered Wizard of Wor for sure.
..okey, Tyrem you win :-*.
But, my personal ans to : "Computer games which deserve an original dedicated arcade?" remain : ARCHON
As (..other great game for '80 Home Computer..) "Boulderdash", first borned like a Home Computer Game.. a unique strategy (as chess style...not too close to Arcade gamestyle..) game,
but never ported in the "coin machine world"..
I'd like very much a ARCHON porting, to play it with the powerfull of Arcade's performance (..the time past and now play the C=64 game it's more for nostalgia than satisfaction..):
.. for me ARCHON deserve it.
For completeness, (ideally) I say, the PC Game (..so '90 game) that deserve a original arcade is "The Lost Vikings"... but I prefer to stay in the '80...so: ARCHON
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As (..other great game for '80 Home Computer..) "Boulderdash", first borned like a Home Computer Game.. a unique strategy (as chess style...not too close to Arcade gamestyle..) game,
but never ported in the "coin machine world"..
Actually there was a Boulder Dash arcade cabinet from Exidy. But that was a bit like the NeoGeo-cabs I guess. Still cool cab.
http://gamesdbase.com/Media/SYSTEM/Arcade/Advert/big/Boulder_Dash_-_1984_-_Exidy.jpg (http://gamesdbase.com/Media/SYSTEM/Arcade/Advert/big/Boulder_Dash_-_1984_-_Exidy.jpg)
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Boulderdash, Archon and Barbarian, such sweet memories from C64 times :-)
I dont remember the name, but there was a helicopter game from birdview where you had to refuel and fight enemy stations and clear islands or so.
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As (..other great game for '80 Home Computer..) "Boulderdash", first borned like a Home Computer Game.. a unique strategy (as chess style...not too close to Arcade gamestyle..) game,
but never ported in the "coin machine world"..
Actually there was a Boulder Dash arcade cabinet from Exidy. But that was a bit like the NeoGeo-cabs I guess. Still cool cab.
Yes, I konw..
<<.."a unique strategy (as chess style...not too close to Arcade gamestyle..) game, but never ported in the "coin machine world" >> it's refer to Archon.. Italians sentences use the "tacit subject"..sorry...
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ah sorry. got that wrong, mate. :)
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Boulderdash, Archon and Barbarian, such sweet memories from C64 times :-)
I dont remember the name, but there was a helicopter game from birdview where you had to refuel and fight enemy stations and clear islands or so.
Two of those were originally designed for the A8 :D
Sadly Barbarian never made it to the A8....but I did play it a lot on the ST....must admit I was quite shocked the first time I chopped a head off..... :shock: :shock: but how the little monster kicked away the head made me LOL ;D
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As (..other great game for '80 Home Computer..) "Boulderdash", first borned like a Home Computer Game.. a unique strategy (as chess style...not too close to Arcade gamestyle..) game,
but never ported in the "coin machine world"..
Actually there was a Boulder Dash arcade cabinet from Exidy. But that was a bit like the NeoGeo-cabs I guess. Still cool cab.
http://gamesdbase.com/Media/SYSTEM/Arcade/Advert/big/Boulder_Dash_-_1984_-_Exidy.jpg (http://gamesdbase.com/Media/SYSTEM/Arcade/Advert/big/Boulder_Dash_-_1984_-_Exidy.jpg)
That _is_ the Atari 8 bit version in a cab..... like Flip & Flop.....and maybe there were more....can't remember.
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I dont remember the name, but there was a helicopter game from birdview where you had to refuel and fight enemy stations and clear islands or so.
Desert Strike?
(http://s.emuparadise.org/GameBase%20Amiga/Screenshots/D/Desert_Strike_-_Return_to_the_Gulf_1.png)
For Exidy and Boulderdash, there is an interesting story here:
http://allincolorforaquarter.blogspot.it/2013/08/the-ultimate-so-far-history-of-exidy.html (http://allincolorforaquarter.blogspot.it/2013/08/the-ultimate-so-far-history-of-exidy.html)
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I've always dreamed of a cab with Artillery Duel from the C64.
You know, the game with two cannons in the mountains and you have to enter the power for the shot, considering obstacles between the two cannons like mountains, trees etc. and the wind.
(https://www.c64-wiki.de/images/2/23/ArtilleryDuelTitel.gif)
I thought you could have a lever on top of the controlpanel to select 1 from let's say 5 different amounts of gun powder for your shot. (similiar to the lever on Missile-X for the 3 different distances) You have to load a cannonball, maybe by rolling a trackball. And you have to adjust the angle by turning a wheel at the front of the cab. Like the ones used on the big cannons. Finally you push a big red button and the cannon fires towards your opponent.
Of course you're limited in both, cannon balls and gun powder. If you run out, you can just watch until you're destroyed by your opponent or until he ran out of gun powder or cannon balls as well. The amount of damage would then tell who won this round or it would simply be a draw and no one won.
This could be a cab with only one set of controls for alternate gameplay or with two sets so both players can play at the same time. This would be a hell of a race :)
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I've always dreamed of a cab with Artillery Duel from the C64.
oh how i loved this game! played it with a friend a few months ago...it was a great fun!
btw: you gave me an idea: this game could be added to a wizard of wor savekit because the astrocade is the only hardware with bitmap graphics (supported by the CPU) and sounds (supported by the cpu) - on all the other pcbs, you have to swap gfx-roms as well...
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Great....so I only need to find a WoW-cab to butcher ;D ;)
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Great....so I only need to find a WoW-cab to butcher ;D ;)
hm. i think it would fit on the normal wow savekit. so no need to butcher one. :)
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@Biasini
Not desert strike, I had that for my megadrive and man it was great.
I googled it, it was " Raid on Bungeling Bay "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKeelD1VmnA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKeelD1VmnA)
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Great....so I only need to find a WoW-cab to butcher ;D ;)
hm. i think it would fit on the normal wow savekit. so no need to butcher one. :)
And where to put the controls? ;)
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And where to put the controls? ;)
do you really think that Jochen would not be able to re-program them so they would match up with the sticks and buttons on wow? ;)
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I'm sure Jochen can do that but that would be boring :P ;)