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Title: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka (Pac-Man)
Post by: Superully on January 24, 2010, 11:44:44 AM
slowly but surely my apartment is being turned into an arcade cabinet restoration assembly line. right now, here are the projects i'm working on and their currents status:

- wizard of wor: restoration almost done, waiting for andré to have a look at the monitor :arrow: 90 %
- centipede: restoration almost done, still waiting for the enhanced / edited overlay from mamemarquees.com :arrow: 90 %
- defender: still working on the sidearts, then reassembly :arrow: 70 %
- paperboy: waiting for nyogel lube to arrive from the states, then reassembly of the control handlebars :arrow: 80 %

as you can see, all of those restoration projects are close to being finished, that's why i "pulled out" the pac-man cab which i picked up on my  trip to france (https://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=792.0) last summer. because the cabinet is in a rough shape, it's getting the full "superully treatment".  8)

i took some pics of the entire cabinet to show its original condition, but i can't seem to find them anymore anywhere :(. so here's a picture i took when picking up the game. at first glance, the cabinet seems to be ok, but i'll show you detailed photos of the damages right afterwards.

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4055/4300192012_1fda533001_b.jpg)

as with almost all the pac-man games, the sides are worn out from holding on to them while playing the game

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2687/4300192586_3b0f045c3d_b.jpg)

furthermore, there are deep scratches in the wood and more paint loss

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4038/4299445605_8bc1efbfe7_b.jpg)

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2759/4300192934_cf3fb91b2b_b.jpg)

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4038/4299445785_ba35ee2228_b.jpg)

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2769/4299445511_aca00469d7_b.jpg)

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2679/4299445891_05601fd94c_b.jpg)

the frontart doesn't look good either

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4059/4299445165_b009b5979c_b.jpg)

in detail

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2800/4299445387_17b1c23d12_b.jpg)

the coin door

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2692/4299444857_5e25dcc95c_b.jpg)

the midway logo plate has also seen better days

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4010/4299445047_cc347378be_b.jpg)

and - as always - the damaged t-molding

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4010/4299444747_1b2cf247d2_b.jpg)

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2788/4299444935_73d9ca2d64_b.jpg)

inside - dirt and spider webs  :shock:

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2781/4299490311_dcb4366900_b.jpg)

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4013/4299490381_5675c3b204_b.jpg)

as you should have realized by now, there's NO WAY the cabinet can stay like that. it has to be gutted entirely and redone from the beginning.

i'm starting at the bottom: rusty legs levelers all the way

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2693/4300237008_93e0741d52_b.jpg)

once removed, the vinyl's original colour can be seen underneath. what a difference!

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2785/4300236652_0e3395266a_b.jpg)

after a lot of cleaning and scrubbing, the bottom is not perfect but much better  :)

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4012/4300236730_4f55392e59_b.jpg)

a rusty collection

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4048/4299446021_ccd3627a50_b.jpg)

the leg leveler mounting plates spend a cosy night in an anti-rust bath and are being treated with polish afterwards. on location  :arrow:

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2720/4300193768_d46f207b01_b.jpg)

a new set of nylon casters to replace the rusted leg levelers - nice!  :-*

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2569/4300193872_949e341ec7_b.jpg)

up next: wood works & sanding down the entire cabinet

to be continued ...

Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: baritonomarchetto on January 24, 2010, 12:02:10 PM
Wow! This is a work for THE-SUPA-ULLY  :D

Hey, finding spiders inside is a good sign: they keep the cab free from other tipe of insects and "beasts"  ;)
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on January 24, 2010, 02:22:30 PM
Nice Ully !

Time for a tattoo.. 

(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/809842b0_gamert.jpg)   ;D ;D
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: Superully on January 24, 2010, 04:05:01 PM

the restoration continues ...

in order to fill all the holes and prep the cab for some fresh coats of paint, i have to sand it down first

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2696/4300193306_6b4cf8f766_b.jpg)

i'm sorry, my blue and yellow friends, but you have to go as well!  :'(

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4057/4299446285_f9b3140d97_b.jpg)

uaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh ...

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4054/4299446375_4e34b74786_b.jpg)

what do you think of that new pac-man look? looks as if mr pac-man has decided to go mad  :o

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4057/4299446573_6c66a1144d_b.jpg)

good-bye, pac-man!

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4030/4300193596_6ce191d957_b.jpg)

the original plaque can't be removed without drilling out the bolts (which i don't want to do) ...

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4034/4300193946_62554c76ea_b.jpg)

... that's why it has to be protected!

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4047/4299446881_91cf32ae59_b.jpg)

now that the cabinet has been sanded down, i can fill all the holes and restore the broken off wood with bondo - this machine was DUNNN!

here are just a few examples!

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4058/4299447163_c11d727599_b.jpg)

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2772/4299447089_45cb99e61b_b.jpg)

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4055/4299447251_fb4f3f27de_b.jpg)

sanding job - completed!  :spaceace:

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4058/4300194086_e4846a03d8_b.jpg)

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4031/4299446999_9b69d44e19_b.jpg)

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2745/4300194216_e9066ce696_b.jpg)

i've decided NOT to entirely repaint the inner black colour, but to just use a spray can to fix some imperfections like the following ones :arrow:

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4051/4300194578_4c08fe9372_b.jpg)

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2767/4300194528_027ed3a667_b.jpg)

after a couple of new paint layers, the results are in  :)

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2748/4300194630_2fbf059389_b.jpg)

the following picture still shows some imperfections, but they are highlighted by the use of flash. in reality, they are invisible. yeah, baby! 8)

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2688/4299444539_55954cf38a_b.jpg)

up next: paint job

to be continued ...

Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: scr33n on January 24, 2010, 04:42:24 PM
Another interesting restoration Ully  :spaceace:

What will you use for the sides and front panels? Twobits stickers (as Bruno and me) or stencils?



Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: petieken on January 24, 2010, 04:49:19 PM
It would be great to see a Pac-Man restoration with stencils. :)
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: scr33n on January 24, 2010, 04:57:00 PM
It would be great to see a Pac-Man restoration with stencils. :)

+1  :spaceace:
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: Superully on January 24, 2010, 05:06:18 PM
It would be great to see a Pac-Man restoration with stencils. :)

+1  ;)
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: petieken on January 24, 2010, 05:20:09 PM
It would be great to see a Pac-Man restoration with stencils. :)

+1  ;)

 :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace:
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: DarthNuno on January 24, 2010, 06:07:51 PM
It would be great to see a Pac-Man restoration with stencils. :)

+1 too!

At the time, when I worked on my Pac Mac, I went to the 'Twobits stickers', because  the stencils were not available at the time.
But now, If I have to work on a similar project, I would go with the 'stencils' solution, for sure!

But hey, I'm very happy with my Pac Man anyway  :-*  All the Nuno's Lair visitors (Arcade fan or not) love this cabinet... and they ALL try that game  ;)
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: level42 on January 24, 2010, 08:10:31 PM
Twobits=evil !
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: scr33n on January 24, 2010, 08:14:35 PM
At the time, when I worked on my Pac Mac, I went to the 'Twobits stickers', because  the stencils were not available at the time.

True 1

But now, If I have to work on a similar project, I would go with the 'stencils' solution, for sure!

True 2

Twobits=evil !

True 3

 :lol:
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: retromax on January 24, 2010, 08:22:34 PM
It's always painful to see them being stripped down........ but it obviousley needs to be done and i'm sure this is gonna look great ;D
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: Sonic 1992 on January 25, 2010, 04:39:33 PM
What a difference being made of PLYWOOD makes vs. the usual crummy particleboard!  :-\

Not too many dings to fix because plywood is soo much stronger!  Haven't seen too many games made this way!

The cheap route always wins in assembly material costs!
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: ckong on January 25, 2010, 04:53:10 PM
Very nice restoration Ully. I like the way you restore your cabs always to 'as good as new'. Must be a mess though in your apartment though with all those semi or nearly finished restoration projects.  ;D

Can't wait to see the photo's of the stencil job.
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: Superully on January 25, 2010, 05:04:37 PM
Must be a mess though in your apartment though with all those semi or nearly finished restoration projects.  ;D

well, i have one room entirely reserved for the restoration process (right now, paperboy, centipede and pac-man are in there) - close the door there, noone can see the mess behind it ;). then from time to time - when i need a lot of space around it - i take one cab into my study to lie it flat on the floor (right now, defender is taking up that spot). finally i have another room (which i call junk room) where i store stuff like food & drinks. right now, wizard of wor is parked there.

all in all, my apartment isn't too messy, but it isn't a beauty either. i'm no fan of decorations and "kitsch", i'm more that functional type of guy 8). the only thing that really bothers my are those cat hairs lying / flying around everywhere. there are times when i wished my cats would look like that  :arrow:

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4061/4303389747_d81815fdcf_o.jpg)
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: petieken on January 25, 2010, 05:08:49 PM
Wow, judging from your description, your apartment must be huge! 8)
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: jcp on January 25, 2010, 05:36:19 PM
What a shame Ully  :'( :

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4054/4299446375_4e34b74786_b.jpg)

I always keep the original stuff, even if there is a few scratchs on it : there is nothing better than the original one, you know.

Nevertheless, have a good "restoration" !
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: Superully on January 25, 2010, 06:21:11 PM
Wow, judging from your description, your apartment must be huge! 8)

fortunately it is :)

What a shame Ully  :'( :
I always keep the original stuff, even if there is a few scratchs on it : there is nothing better than the original one, you know.

yeah, i know! it always hurts to do that and i'm very hesitant about it, but most of the cabs are that beat up or rusted away (wait till you see the pac panel) that not giving it the full restoration treatment isn't an option for me. sometimes - as with my defender - i'm only doing touchups though (although this can be more difficult than redoing the entire cabinet).

some people can live with the old worn looks, i can't - and this is no fingerpointing from my part, it's simply a matter of taste!  :-*
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: level42 on January 25, 2010, 08:09:14 PM
What's your feeling about the Berzerk in this respect Ully ?

Sometimes (at daylight) I think: Damn, I should do a full restore.

But most of the time I just think "It deserved it's bumps and scratches. There is no harm in showing A BIT of age.
Also, I'm always hesitant when it comes to woodwork. If I see how good you are at it I'm jealous. Maybe you can do all the woodwork and I do all the electronics on all of our cabs ? ;)

Also, I'm _positive_ I will never get the same looks with the black "grinded" paint etc. as it is now.

About the cats: can you reserve a room without them ? I'm allergic !!  :shock:
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: Superully on January 25, 2010, 08:33:54 PM
What's your feeling about the Berzerk in this respect Ully ?

Also, I'm _positive_ I will never get the same looks with the black "grinded" paint etc. as it is now.

first of all: your berzerk seems to be in a better condition than mine is, especially at the bottom i have a lot of splintered wood. PLUS: the entire front is extremely worn, almost nothing left of the texture. i have decided NOT to do a full restoration because of the difficulties involved in recreating that special structure, but i will be redoing the broken off parts AND the entire front. to recreate the texture i have already experimented with adding grains of sand to the paint, which provided OK results. therefore i've asked phetishboy from the klov forum who did a nice restoration job on his berzerk and he was kind enough to give me the remaining bag with the sand texture he used for free . i have some parts coming in from the usa soon, so this won't cost me anything extra.  :)

If I see how good you are at it I'm jealous. Maybe you can do all the woodwork and I do all the electronics on all of our cabs ? ;)

and when i see your electronic jobs it is ME who is EXTREMELY JEALOUS! if we were neighbours, it would be a perfect match!  8)

About the cats: can you reserve a room without them ? I'm allergic !!  :shock:

i will definitely lock them away at night AND there is one room where they rarely are, so this should be ok for you. what's strange is that have been a lot of people around lately who are allergic to cats ...
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: level42 on January 25, 2010, 08:46:59 PM
Neighbors, yes that would make a beautiful team ! :P

I do only basic electronics stuff though, so Andreas' should be the third neighbor.

I totally blame my wife for my allergy. I was never allergic to cats. I actually _WANTED_ cats, but she was allergic to them so, no cats. When you're not in contact with cats for many many years, you will get allergic.
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: ckong on January 26, 2010, 08:31:04 AM
LOL, a  bag of sand for a repair job. That's great. But watch out where you put the bag down, or else ......  the cats ......  pooh .......   You will have a smelly cab for the rest of your life.

"He Ully, I didn't know that you still had a cat?" "No, you are smelling that damn cab"  :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: Spyridon on January 26, 2010, 10:54:11 PM
It would be great to see a Pac-Man restoration with stencils. :)

Here is mine (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=87614.0)

All done with stencils
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh244/joeo42/Pacman/IMG_7641.jpg)(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh244/joeo42/Pacman/IMG_7674.jpg)

Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: Superully on January 27, 2010, 07:48:55 AM
Here is mine (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=87614.0)
All done with stencils

i had been following yor restoration while it was happening, spyri. a wonderful job you did on your pac-man - hopefully mine will come out as good as yours!
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: scr33n on January 27, 2010, 08:01:20 AM
i had been following yor restoration while it was happening, spyri.

Me too, fantastic job !!!  :-* :-*
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: Spyridon on January 28, 2010, 02:35:51 AM

i had been following yor restoration while it was happening, spyri. a wonderful job you did on your pac-man - hopefully mine will come out as good as yours!

I'm sure it will.  If you haven't done a stencil project before (this was my first), they are a lot of fun.  Peeling off each layer and seeing the results is a blast.
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: Superully on February 06, 2010, 04:54:33 PM

the restoration continues ...

this is the dawn of the moment we're all waiting for: the stencilling job. but in order to get there, the cab has to get its base color. and before that, some coats of wood primer!

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2722/4334265291_ced40fff93_b.jpg)

here we go ...

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4019/4334264797_4b1b9b7100_b.jpg)

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2765/4335006354_cab056ffe8_b.jpg)

after giving the cab time to dry in a warm room for about one week, it's ready for the next step: PAC-MAN YELLOW! i've been looking up and down, left and right, east and west, north and south, in short: EVERYWHERE, to find a color code / a color sample to get the correct shade of yellow. someone from the usa even sent me a sample of the yellow he used for his pac-man restoration on a piece of paper, but he didn't apply it evenly and so it wasn't suitable for scanning either.

you should know by now how difficult it is to get a cab up into my apartment, so i didn't want to go through all the trouble of carrying it down again, bringing it to a paintshop, having the yellow scanned and carrying it up again and the construction of the cab is so solid that removing pieces is damn hard. PLUS: over the years the colors have faded / changed a lot, which means that the yellow at the top is completely different from the one at the bottom. i eventually found a spot at the back of the cab beneath the grilles which seemed to be untouched by the hands of time. eventually, decided to take the following route: get a couple of color palettes and look for a match as close as possible. although on the following picture the yellows seem to be completely off, in reality S 0580-Y is a DAMN CLOSE MATCH, i'd say 95% - and that's what i can absolutely live with!

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4035/4334302597_e0a683266e_b.jpg)

and here's how the color looks in reality!  :-*

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4028/4335006450_d5c8d3e6cc_b.jpg)

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4030/4334265045_f7ca8e8a16_b.jpg)

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2741/4334265161_5a92ea3b23_b.jpg)

again, this has to dry for a couple of days. in between i will do some sanding, apply one or two more coats of yellow and let it dry completely afterwards. you know what to expect after that ...

to be continued ...

Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: DarthNuno on February 06, 2010, 05:04:47 PM
Yaw! I really love the 'Yellow' Pac Mac color... I'm sure I even can taste it  ::) :P Mhhh... well, maybe not after all  ;D

This gonna be the best part of the work : Stencils powââââ  :-*
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: Superully on February 21, 2010, 06:33:07 PM

the restoration continues ...

now that the cab has been in a warm dry room for more than a week, the yellow has dried completely and i can check whether my protection of the original plaque has paid off

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2759/4375437567_d82a2ddb24_b.jpg)

YES!!! another original part saved without having to drill it out

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4008/4376186322_d69aa0c66e_b.jpg)

a huuuge tube has arrived from the usa - i found someone who cut me some pac-man stencils  8)

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4004/4375440783_0307b584a2_b.jpg)

cost me $63.50 to get those "arcade posters" ;) over

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2723/4376189516_8a3b057277_b.jpg)

a first peak inside - that seems to be a lot of stuff!

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4006/4375439993_52dbd24fb4_b.jpg)

now that i have the stencils, all i'm missing are the colors red and blue. i haven't been lucky finding the right color shades this time, but i found something eh someone even better. a guy from the british jamma+ forum had recently done a full pac-man restoration (including stencilling) and he was willing to help me out. he had transported his cab to a local shop where he had the original colors scanned. when i asked him whether he could send me the colors codes, he made me an offer i couldn't resist: the original pac-man colors ready to be sprayed on in cans. no roller, no spray gun - SPRAY CANS!!!  thx a lot, justin :-*

anxiously i was waiting for the package to arrive, when suddenly the doorbell rang. look what i've got  :arrow:

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2690/4376191560_6bb58551e1_b.jpg)

let's open this up quickly - of course my cat gnocchi has to do some investigative work as well

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2703/4376191336_1984800756_b.jpg)

and here they are: two cans of blue and two cans of red

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2699/4376190424_5bbfc25437_b.jpg)

the american guy who sent me the stencils had "slapped" the colors he used for his pac-man restoration on a sheet of paper, so i want to check whether the american colors match the british colors. looking great, don't you think?

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2687/4375437447_ed3930b1d1_b.jpg)

ladies and gentlemen, without further ado, let's get the stencilling on the road ...

all in all there are 9 different stencils in the tube, 3 for each side and for the individual colors. i'm starting with the front of the cabinet. what you can see on the following picture is that some of the stencils are wrinkled a lot - hope this doesn't cause any problems later on  :?

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2687/4376184144_d4febb9e89_b.jpg)

whenever there is something which is important to know, usa-kevin has written it down directly on the stencils

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4062/4376183716_42263e63cb_b.jpg)

marking the middle of the cabinet

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4033/4375434945_4e0f4d9cf9_b.jpg)

pulling the application mask off slowly while "rubbing down" the stencil

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4024/4375435077_6a849c5b65_b.jpg)

first stencil applied

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2687/4376184144_d4febb9e89_b.jpg)

removing the protective layer

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4052/4376184476_41c892b64a_b.jpg)

i've talked about the wrinkles in some of the stencils before, here are two pictures showing them in detail. when spraying on the paint, i will have to press them down shortly beforehand and it should work!

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2759/4375435307_87ca238323_b.jpg)

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4010/4376184374_647fd8b703_b.jpg)

masking off the rest of the front to protect it against overspray (more on that later)

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4004/4376184808_d67afe6fb6_b.jpg)

on to the sides! fortunately, i had taken measures of the sideart placement before sanding down the cabinet, because although usa-kevin has written down instructions on where to put and how to align the stencils, they don't match up at all with my original measures. i've decided to stick with my numbers!

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4064/4375435641_f66ba32bc9_b.jpg)

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4061/4376185178_70833fc223_b.jpg)

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2794/4376185058_b5ea891c8e_b.jpg)

protective layers removed and cabinet masked off

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2740/4376185496_dfb785f556_b.jpg)

another one of usa-kevin's little notes  :)

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4065/4376183422_fac9ab7df1_b.jpg)

all the stencils have been applied, the rest of the cabinet has been protected - let's shake the spray cans!  :spaceace:

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4070/4376185312_6f0424e4e4_b.jpg)

i very soon realize that this job CAN'T BE DONE in my usual arcade workroom, because the spray cans are producing so much overspray and atomized spray that i have blue paint "flying around" everywhere! so i'm setting up a temporary spraying booth with protective foil in the corridor leading up to my workroom. in hindsight, this was the right choice to do - check out the floor and the foil!  :o

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2787/4376185826_3df45f8a61_b.jpg)

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4007/4376185968_bfe96800a7_b.jpg)

the floor where the cabinet once stood - this is going to take a while to clean it up  :(

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2722/4376186132_661b63054d_b.jpg)

but the first results look promising

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4068/4376185644_8317cfdbb6_b.jpg)

once again, this is going to need some time for the paint to dry, so in the meantime i can concentrate on other parts of the cabinet - very tiny parts! the cab's serial number is printed on a piece of cardboard which was stapled inside the cabinet, but it fell off and parts of it are missing. what can be done about that?

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4026/4376187948_c9c4e5bf1e_b.jpg)

i found a new piece of cardboard with a pretty good color match (not identical, but i'm already being anal enough, so it will do just fine)

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4044/4376188488_9d36de7d08_b.jpg)

and to be even more anal, this needs some protection - i've picked this up from someone on the klov forum and liked the idea of laminating the labels! call me crazy ...

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4011/4376188276_07f0b4ff74_b.jpg)

two original labels / instructions protected for eternity  :)

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4032/4375439601_2dbde4f78b_b.jpg)

next up: the power board (and the wiring) - dirty as hell as you can see!

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2719/4376187692_d6ecbba7a6_b.jpg)

in order to give that thing a good clean, everything has to be removed

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2712/4376187356_53f77ba761_b.jpg)

voila - looking a better!

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2695/4375437901_33600d62a7_b.jpg)

on to the coin door. once again, here's the state it was originally in when i picked up the game  :shock:

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2734/4376188878_a83d8b1b01_b.jpg)

from behind: very dirty and a little bit unorganized

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2700/4375440305_cbe0289c62_b.jpg)

look at that midway logo plate  :'(

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2780/4375712949_2001d92359_b.jpg)

drilling out the rivets that hold the logo plate in place

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2696/4375711921_bc01cca0c6_b.jpg)

underneath - RUST ATTACK  :twisted:

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4001/4376460614_02334ab811_b.jpg)

got a replacement logo plate from rich from thisoldgame.com. i've decided to go for the one without holes because up to now noone has been able to find the correct rivets to re-attach it, screwing this thing on is not an option and somehow i think it looks better without the holes!

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2693/4376188154_200698bf07_b.jpg)

the coin door after its visit to the powder coater

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2688/4376190060_6cf25b9cd8_b.jpg)

in detail :-*

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4006/4375442019_2f03efa8cb_b.jpg)

some steel woold and polish make the rusty metal parts shiny ("before" in the left, "after" on the right)

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4023/4376187196_94b6aee0c2_b.jpg)

and here we go: the re-assembled coin door from behind ...

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4001/4375744427_ab85d8e2d9_b.jpg)

... and from the front!

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2743/4376493258_90284a4827_b.jpg)

to be continued ...

Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on February 21, 2010, 07:22:11 PM
that powdercoat really does the trick ! , unbelievable beautifull !

and ully, next time put the same foil under the cab in your "paintbooth"

well i think i dont need to tell you this after you cleaned your hallway  ;D
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: DarthNuno on February 21, 2010, 07:46:06 PM
Awesome! Great job... but also a lot of stress... The stencils are the big part of the thing, and you're doing well! I can't wait to see the final result  :-*

that powdercoat really does the trick ! , unbelievable beautifull !

Yes! I'll try to find someone here who can do the job for my coming projects! Because the result is so great  :o :-*
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: Muerto on February 21, 2010, 07:55:02 PM
damn! what a mess!!!!!

lol! - nice precaution with the plast foil!, or maby you just should have sprayed the entire apartment baby-blue!!!  ;)
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2787/4376185826_3df45f8a61_b.jpg)

And wow, that coin door, like brand new!

and of course the work you did is Tony approved!
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:_GX-a3yB59iYVM:http://www.gr8pr.net/images/frosties-tiger2.gif)
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: Superully on February 21, 2010, 08:11:52 PM

update: i wonder where gnocchi has been ...  ;)

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4012/4376803606_1b1e9c314d_b.jpg)

Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: Muerto on February 21, 2010, 08:12:39 PM
hahaha! you cloned your cat, so now it´s blue!!!! lol!!!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: DarthNuno on February 21, 2010, 08:14:45 PM

update: i wonder where gnocchi has been ...  ;)

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4012/4376803606_1b1e9c314d_b.jpg)


LOL  ;D ;D ;D

Hope he only walked on the corridor ... and not got the idea to climb on the cab'  :P

CAT MAN !  ;D
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: ckong on February 22, 2010, 12:05:29 AM
Wow, nice work with those stencils. How many layers blue did you spray and are you using a specific technique to get an even coat?

I never knew that you can get custom paint in a spraycan.

Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: Superully on February 22, 2010, 07:59:08 AM
How many layers blue did you spray and are you using a specific technique to get an even coat?

i sprayed around 3 to 4 layers, but all in all the coat isn't very thick (when i compare it to the rolled on yellow coat). the coat gets pretty even from spraying the colors on, it's as if you were using an airbrush!

I never knew that you can get custom paint in a spraycan.

didn't know that either, that's why i was so happy. i could have had the yellow in spray cans as well, but (a) this would have cost me a fortune because i would have needed A LOOOT OF cans (b) i think my whole apartment would have been yellow afterwards (including the cats ;))
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: ckong on February 22, 2010, 08:08:47 AM
..... i think my whole apartment would have been yellow afterwards (including the cats ;))

LOL then you would never find your cats again, they would merge with the environnement.

Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: scr33n on February 22, 2010, 09:13:31 AM
..... i think my whole apartment would have been yellow afterwards (including the cats ;))

LOL then you would never find your cats again, they would merge with the environnement.



 :D :D ;D ;D

Interesting post Ully ... I need info for Burgertime stencils  :P :wink:  :-* :-*
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: hagen on February 22, 2010, 10:01:53 AM
Voll geil Ully, denke mir immer , kann doch nicht sein das ich in unserem Chaos nen Automaten baue. :oops:
Hab auch drei Katzen die wenn man nicht aufpasst dann immer gleich im Cab sitzen, Teile auf dem Küchentisch zwischen vorbereiten für Abendessen etc. :o

Denke mir dann immer, man müsste das alles viel profesioneller machen, so kann das doch nicht 100% werden.

Wenn ich bei dir schaue, mit Lacken im Flur, ist ja noch viel schlimmer und wird trotzdem richtig gut. ;D

Die Bilder von dir machen mir Mut schon mal im Kopf das nächste Projekt zu planen.

Vielen Dank für die schönen Bilder  :wink:

PS: Hab auch von den Katzen die Eine oder Andere anberissene Ecke an Tapete  ;D

Toll das es noch mehr Leuten so geht.

PPS: For all those they are not could read german, put these text in google for translation , when it comes out it will be a funny story and never the same as before   ;D

Greetings from germany ,

Hagen
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: jcp on February 22, 2010, 01:00:44 PM
hagen : very funny, but if everybody write in his mother tongue ...

Bon, je pense que ce n'était qu'un simple écart de langage, je sais que ce n'est pas facile pour les non natifs, mais c'est la règle de bienséance dans les forums à visée internationale (oui, je sais, je suis un peu plus "évolué" quand j'écris dans ma langue natale ... bizarre, non :lol:). 
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: hagen on February 22, 2010, 02:35:54 PM
you are right, i will do in english in the Afternoon , then i think i had enought time  :wink:
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: jcp on February 22, 2010, 03:42:24 PM
The next posts, not all your old posts  ;).
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: baiterhater on February 28, 2010, 08:35:38 PM

Nice one Ully the resto is looking great, glad you received the paint and its working out well


Justin

Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: Superully on April 03, 2010, 12:36:50 PM

here's an update on my pac resto. short version: IT'S RUINED!!!  :'(

just a few pics to show you the results! after letting the blue paint dry for more than a week, i removed the stencils and huge parts of the color came off  :arrow:

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2719/4486549980_3738c997c8_b.jpg)

i did some touchups where necessary  :arrow:

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4011/4485898257_1c4d5b9dd9_b.jpg)

it wasn't perfect, but something i could (probably) have lived with  :arrow:

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4024/4485898213_d02b9239b8_b.jpg)

then i sprayed on the red (which worked better than the blue, don't ask me why) and afterwards the black. when i removed the stencils yesterday, more parts of the blue came off  :arrow:

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4001/4486550168_7568352df8_b.jpg)

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4062/4486550222_f0a972d4e4_b.jpg)

i have no idea what went wrong here, i shook the paint well, i gave it a lot of drying time, but somehow it just didn't want to stick to the surface. the results are totally unacceptable, which means i have to start (almost) from scratch. i might try rolling on the paint this time (although i don't have a perfect color match for that) and i might even try a different set of stencils.

just wanted to let you guys know that not everything is going smoothly on the "superully resto front"! this was a hard blow (which cost me some serious money), but i will recover - although it hurts a lot to see it everytime i walk into the resto room. i will have to get the paint off the pac as soon as possible!

for now, here's where i stand  :arrow:  :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on April 03, 2010, 04:20:36 PM
That is a serious setback  :(

but im sure you will make it fine next time

not everything goes well at first try

anyway , i feel with you and goodluck
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: level42 on April 03, 2010, 06:00:07 PM
That is very sad looks like you're in a small dip re. the hobby....

From what I've read the stencils are supposed to be removed when the paint is "tacky" which I translate to being between wet and dry.

But what do I know, the box of stencils for Joust is still scaring the hell out of me ;)
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: Superully on April 03, 2010, 06:40:43 PM
From what I've read the stencils are supposed to be removed when the paint is "tacky" which I translate to being between wet and dry.

you read this and then you read that, e.g. phetishboy removed the stencils on one side during his moon patrol resto when the paint was still tacky - parts of the paint came off. the other side the paint dried for 15 hours - worked like a charm. the guy who sent me the paint had the paint dry for one week! i guess there's learning curve involved in this, it also depends on the paint you're using. i did some testing before i tried my paint on the pac, it worked wonderfully there, don't know what went wrong this time!

But what do I know, the box of stencils for Joust is still scaring the hell out of me ;)

you should have seen the pac stencils  ;)

That is very sad looks like you're in a small dip re. the hobby....

i totally agree! i'm a little bit depressed atm - right at the beginning of the holidays where i have a looooot of time. if only i could get that berzerk up and running again ... (see my berzerk thread)
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: ckong on April 03, 2010, 08:05:09 PM
What a misfortune Ully, all that work for nothing. What can have gone wrong, paint too dry, too wet? Could it be that the surface wasn't clean enough, a little 'greasy' perhaps which caused that the paint didn't stuck well? Is spraing paint not the way to go?

I don't know, but as Estienne said, it's a setback which you can and will overcome. Keep up the good work with all your restorations. I'm always impressed with the thorougness of your work and one day your pac-man will shine.

Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: scr33n on April 03, 2010, 09:29:43 PM
Ouch!!! This is my fear Ully  :? :ghost:

I'll see what happens with BurgerTime (I hope to start work within two weeks)  :P :roll:

At this point I'll try with the foam roller ...
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: WunderCade on April 03, 2010, 09:43:49 PM
Sorry to see that Ully.  Even if you did remove the stencil with the paint still wet or tacky and got perfect lines.  That blue paint would have peeled off anyway when you used the second layer stencils and then peeled it back.  Must have been a bad can of blue if the other colors were good.
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: Superully on April 03, 2010, 11:52:47 PM
Ouch!!! This is my fear Ully  :? :ghost:
At this point I'll try with the foam roller ...

stencilling is a damn difficult job which i don't like AT ALL, because you have to invest both a lot of time and money - and when you finally pull the stencils off it is either a winner or a disaster. in my case it was the latter! DAMN!!!
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on April 04, 2010, 07:01:30 AM
You can temporaly change your avatar...  ;D

(http://nieja.kronikus.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/frustrated.jpg)
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: Superully on April 04, 2010, 08:41:43 AM
your wish is my command, etienne!
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: level42 on April 04, 2010, 10:02:36 AM
Well, we all screw up from time to time in this hobby. I've done it plenty of times (Berzerk bezel, the first sheet of vinyl on the SW cockpit, the metal parts on the SW cockpit (should have gone with powder coating for that one right away ;)).

Not to mention my failure in installing vinyl in my gameroom. I had put soft tiles under it, and it was already wacky feeling when it was done. Then we brought in the SW cab and it tore the vinyl almost completely in the length of the room ! Turned out there was one of the legs still on the machine and it was half broken, almost like a knife. Cost me more than a set of stencils I think.....but the good thing is I immediately decided to use tiles instead and I never regretted it.

Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: gyruss on April 04, 2010, 02:27:07 PM
This really sucks, but I'm sure you will fix it eventually. So keep your head up and think about all the successful restorations you have done in the past.
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: scr33n on April 04, 2010, 02:40:50 PM
So keep your head up and think about all the successful restorations you have done in the past.

+1

 :spaceace: :spaceace:
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: Superully on April 08, 2010, 02:45:15 PM

the restoration continues ...

ok, you've all read what happened to my pac-man stencil job. here's how it came about and what happened next ...

let's warp back in time

(http://www.uh.edu/engines/timewarp.jpg)

here's where we left off: the blue color has been applied

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2772/4502606306_7713e27827_b.jpg)

after sitting in a warm room for about a week, i'm carefully removing the stencils

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2764/4502518636_5824667d74_b.jpg)

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4009/4501884833_2870f71dd2_b.jpg)

looking good for the most part, although there are some rough edges here and there which normally should be totally straight

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2795/4501884963_573179d910_b.jpg)

and then there are spots like this  :'( (you've seen that picture before, but i wanted to show it again)

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2719/4486549980_3738c997c8_b.jpg)

nevertheless - after some touch ups - i continue with the second color: RED! the instructions on the stencils tell me what to do: align the red stencil with the registration marks from the blue stencil

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2777/4501885317_f126ac20a3_b.jpg)

like this  :arrow:

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4059/4502518744_f712ec4363_b.jpg)

difficult to get a 100% match because of the sheer size of the stencils, but i was told it's going to work well with some tolerance!

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4016/4501885213_68638c8004.jpg) (http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4018/4501885189_37fab15c60.jpg)

after some careful alignment, i'm fixing the vinyl to the cabinet

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4029/4502518796_69fe4b55cb_b.jpg)

as you can see, well within tolerance limits!

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4020/4501885261_9342524c0b_b.jpg)

and here's the cabinet, already protected for the upcoming paint job in my temporary paint booth

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4015/4502519170_58753038a4_b.jpg)

from the outside

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4011/4501885383_cf1013d8bf_b.jpg)

from the inside

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4038/4501885525_c179d3332e_b.jpg)

although i had prepped the floor of the paint booth much better this time, the paint job still created a mess on my floor

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2694/4501885673_f61bddeeeb_b.jpg)

and on my shirt

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2751/4502519290_085f8667c0_b.jpg)

my dusk mask - check out those filters!  :o i guess i would be dead by now if i hadn't worn it  :ghost:

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2755/4501885633_21aaa7b4dd_b.jpg)

of course- HE couldn't stay out of it!

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4010/4502519592_f0b6b18eb6_b.jpg)

back into the warm room with the cabinet for a couple of days to dry completely

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4018/4502519520_2d68b27bca_b.jpg)

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4050/4501885741_4a3a0ce672_b.jpg)

time to remove those red stencils!

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4039/4502519634_8242aafed7_b.jpg)

you can already spot the name of the game

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2574/4502519676_83242ebef0_b.jpg)

but in other areas, the blue paint gets lifted off in huge chunks  >:(

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2750/4502519732_de5a4800c5_b.jpg)

but i'm not giving up, because the last color - black - is supposed to cover huge parts of the red and the blue. so let's apply the last set of stencils!

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4041/4502519794_0690b17e34_b.jpg)

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4069/4501886227_f11f2a63e2_b.jpg)

the left side

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2746/4502520000_6a4dd64964_b.jpg)

the front

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2715/4502519866_f8467e0679_b.jpg)

swallow this, pac-man  ;D

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4045/4501886379_0e41464921_b.jpg)

after the first layer

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4057/4501886441_1dc9ec90d3_b.jpg)

and some layers later

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4035/4502520186_9dbac5dd22_b.jpg)

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2762/4502520344_409a66d639_b.jpg)

which color was that again? :P

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4041/4501886535_73a662e289_b.jpg)

after more drying time in the well-known warm room ;), i'm removing the black stencils - and disaster strikes!!! :evil:

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4048/4501887005_e356de4ba6_b.jpg)

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2748/4501884571_365a63f231_b.jpg)

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4037/4502520398_bfbb815ea9_b.jpg)

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4062/4486550222_f0a972d4e4_b.jpg)

the front of the cabinet

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2794/4501887119_1bcf43aed9_b.jpg)

if that wasn't bad enough, i'm spotting an error in the red stencils: there's red above pac-man's eyes where there should be yellow

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4034/4501887063_757cdf8a61_b.jpg)

i'm masking off the area for manual touch up

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2795/4501884479_e1610ce187_b.jpg)

and while i'm at it, i'm fixing a problem which was already present on all the original pac-man cabinets - can you spot it?

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4024/4501970847_fba1d1f5bd_o.jpg)

NO? here's a close-up of the erroneous area  :arrow:

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4050/4502520490_f505a56010_b.jpg)

see it now? right, the C is missing the red color at the bottom. because this is a very delicate paint job, i have to make a stencil for it and in order to do so, i'm copying the shape on a sheet of paper

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4025/4501886707_ea59cc1552_b.jpg)

with the help of that template, i can cut the corresponding stencils by placing the template on top of blue painter's tape

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2775/4502520594_542ec8b207_b.jpg)

the hand-made stencil on location (not 100% fixed though)

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4002/4502520524_2163361c78_b.jpg)

now i can simply paint away without having to worry about spills

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2759/4501886839_01a0e3d1ff_b.jpg)

the end result  :)

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4042/4501886961_5a5b6ec2a1_b.jpg)

you might be wondering: "what about the rest of the cabinet?"

well, i had three options:

(1) strip down the cabinet completely and apply vinyl
(2) strip down the cabinet completely and start the paint job from scratch
(3) try to touch up the cabinet as good as possible

i decided against (1) because although vinyl isn't too difficult to apply and looks nice, it simply isn't original
i decided against (2) because it would have meant throwing away everything i had done so far without knowing whether it was going to work out the next time

PLUS: both (1) and (2) would have cost me a few hundred bucks - AGAIN  :(

so i decided to go with (3) because if it didn't look fair enough, i could still go with either (1) or (2)

for the last couple of days (thank god it's the school holidays right now) i've been manually touching up the entire cabinet artwork, which means taping off certain areas and trying to correct the damages with a tiny brush! since i don't have the color in paint cans, i have to spray the colors into small cups first  :arrow:

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2736/4502697178_b46008dd48_b.jpg)

the job seems to be taking forever, because i always have to wait for the individual colors to dry before i can go on with the next one!

after a lot of struggle and hardship here's my pac-man where it stands right now  :-*

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4049/4502518504_e54341c9fb_b.jpg)

don't get me wrong, it looks totally nice on the picture, but in reality, you can see where i touched up the cabinet if you look closely, but this has reached a point where i can totally live with the results. right now, i'm waiting for some copyright message stencils from brian (gamestencils.com). those weren't included in my stencil set and brian kindly cut me a couple of those - they are on their way to germany as we speak. after those have been applied, i'm going to protect the entire paint job with some coats of clear to (a) give the entire artwork a nice finish (b) even out the touched up parts (c) protect the paint job from more paint "falling off".

compared to where i was some days ago, this is like heaven and hell, day and night, asterix and obelix ;)

@etienne: can i change my avatar now?  :)

to be continued ...

Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: DarthNuno on April 08, 2010, 03:08:00 PM
 :arrow: (3) try to touch up the cabinet as good as possible

I would do the same choice than you at this point!

Too much money & time so far... I can understand the need to have the perfect job done, but in such case... it would involves -once again - too much time, stress, money, organization...

I'm sure the manual correction will be fine at the end  ;)

ps : ... and at the really end, nobody will see the side arts because your Pac Man will be between two other cabinets  ;D

Thanks for sharing your (good or bad) experience here  :-*
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: ckong on April 08, 2010, 03:49:30 PM
Ully, you made a wise decision, and in the end the result seems to be pretty good to me, as good as you could do after the disaster with the blue paint (the result before your great 'touch up' work reminded me of the hand painted missile command side art I once saw on a photo. It was located at Stephan's place I believe).  ;)

It must have been tough for you, knowing that you are a restoration prefectionist, and I have respect for your determination.  :spaceace:

Can't wait to see the rest of the project. By the way, what are you going to do with the Ms? Will there also a stencil job be waiting for her?
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on April 08, 2010, 05:07:55 PM
@etienne: can i change my avatar now?  :)

You have my bless  ;D
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: Superully on April 08, 2010, 05:10:06 PM
thx etienne!  ;D
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: Superully on April 08, 2010, 11:11:16 PM
By the way, what are you going to do with the Ms? Will there also a stencil job be waiting for her?

don't know yet what i'm going to do with the lady. the sides are in pretty good shape from what i can tell / remember, but the front has some kind of additional coin insert installed which definitely has to go, that's why i will most likely restencil the front - and when i do so, i might as well do the sides, because then i have the paint at my disposal. i will perform some tests with spare pac-man stencils trying to roll on the paint instead of spraying it and if this works out nicely, i'm going to do a roller stencil job after my disaster with the mister pac!

have you guys decided what to do with your lady yet? lady pac of course  ;)
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: ckong on April 09, 2010, 07:36:49 AM
I can only speak for myself, but I will stencil my PM and ms. PM. don't know when yet, probably sometime this year.
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: gyruss on April 09, 2010, 10:24:36 AM
I think I'll eventually stencil mine ms pac man, but your post scares me a little bit.
Although the outcome isn’t that bad if you ask me. I could live with those little errors.
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: level42 on April 09, 2010, 10:45:50 AM
I can only speak for myself, but I will stencil my PM and ms. PM. don't know when yet, probably sometime this year.
Any chance of a "group stencil process" ? The big problem is that you need to have such long periods in time between sessions. Else it would be ideal to do multiple cabs in one go....

IF I'm going to stencil it will be rolled, not sprayed.

Ully, I wonder, since the blue came off, was it dried enough ?
Also, with the black, it looks like you're painting in small "puffs" instead of moving the spray left/right. I also noticed this effect on one side of your Berzerk. Am I right ? As far as I know with spraying you need to "swipe" your hand with a very steady speed. Also never start or stop spraying on the thing you are painting, so in this case start/stop on the stencils or next to the cab.

Just thinking out loud here, I'm definitely no expert...

Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: Superully on April 09, 2010, 11:30:17 AM
Ully, I wonder, since the blue came off, was it dried enough ?

totally! i had it sitting in that "famous warm room" for many many days. btw, the paint came out almost dry, that's why it created that mess on the floor. and as i've said before, the red was good to work with (apart from the mess it created) and the only place it lifted off was when there was blue underneath. i guess something must have been wrong with the paint - or i didn't prep the cab well (although i sanded it before spraying the colors).

Also, with the black, it looks like you're painting in small "puffs" instead of moving the spray left/right. I also noticed this effect on one side of your Berzerk. Am I right ? As far as I know with spraying you need to "swipe" your hand with a very steady speed. Also never start or stop spraying on the thing you are painting, so in this case start/stop on the stencils or next to the cab.

no offence taken, andré! i'm no expert on this either and i'm totally willing to learn, but the "black puff" was just done to take the picture, normally i swipe from left to right and the next layer up and down PLUS i never start on the area to be painted directly.

as for the berzerk: i rolled on the paint with the structure and applied one or two additional layers without the structure. then i sanded down parts of the structure and where the white color shone through, i either rolled on another layer or "puffed on" some black from a spray can. well spotted, by the way, this is only visible on the picture because of the flash!
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: Dazza on April 09, 2010, 12:08:59 PM
Did you "white spirit" the base wood before applying the first coat? That removes any dust particles.
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: Superully on April 09, 2010, 12:26:20 PM
Did you "white spirit" the base wood before applying the first coat? That removes any dust particles.

nope, what is that exactly?
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: level42 on April 09, 2010, 01:50:13 PM
The paint you got from the US right ?

Maybe the pressure changes/freezing cold in the hold of the plane ruined the can of paint ?


[EDIT] I re-read and the cans came from the UK. Not sure if that will go by airmail or surface mail....
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: Superully on April 09, 2010, 02:08:04 PM
don't know either, but if it matters where the paint came from, why is there a difference between the blue and the red?
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on April 09, 2010, 03:31:01 PM
i never saw paint come out dry from spraycans, maybe that was the problem ?
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: Superully on April 09, 2010, 04:30:21 PM
it seemed to come out ALMOST dry - look at that mess it made on the floor and on my mask, it's like dust!
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on April 09, 2010, 08:44:58 PM
yeah i saw that, makes me think that there is something wrong with the paint

although the red was ok you said, and that was almost dry as well ?
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka (Pac-Man)
Post by: Superully on May 02, 2010, 10:07:05 PM

the restoration continues ...

my pac-man stencils came without copyright message stencils or stickers for that. because the artwork seemed to be missing something, i asked brian from gamestencils.com whether he could cut some of those tiny stencils for me from a file i sent him. he kindly agreed to do so and sent a couple of those over to germany. thx brian - you rock!!!  :-*

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4030/4571671065_38b436778e_b.jpg)

taking measures for perfect alignment

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4010/4571671517_a870923857_b.jpg)

after application, i'm removing the protective cover

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4059/4571671331_619bdcb4ae_b.jpg)

maximum protection against possible overspray  :spaceace:

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4021/4572306750_eb25f975a5_b.jpg)

three thin layers of black later

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4031/4572306446_b68cb46a6c_b.jpg)

the moment of truth!

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4010/4571672417_7132b9fb50_b.jpg)

man, those stencils are really tiny tiny tiny tiny tiny

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4008/4571672545_0b5a767fb3_b.jpg)

just wonderful!!! no complications at all this time  :)

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4060/4572305820_b501e8475a_b.jpg)

to be continued ...

Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka (Pac-Man)
Post by: Superully on May 10, 2010, 07:05:24 PM

the restoration continues ...

... with the control panel! torn overlay, full of rust - here's what i started with  :arrow:

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4071/4595324251_cd71344e06_b.jpg)

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3382/4595323965_d539597d44_b.jpg)

(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1375/4595345581_68934a0bf8_b.jpg)

on most parts of the panel, the overlay peels off easily

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3349/4595961628_eef0cf1aab_b.jpg)

on others i have to use the proper tools

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3627/4595962088_4651f9c944_b.jpg)

done!

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3558/4595961244_85f9e571cb_b.jpg)

ok, this is as back-to-basics as it might get

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4032/4595961478_24d5829661_b.jpg)

all the metal parts get the usual powdercoating treatment - even the joystick parts which won't be visible. that's a lot of parts for one joystick by the way ... :o

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3412/4595325513_caff2b7097_b.jpg)

i'm having troubles reassembling the joystick ???! this is how the pieces are supposed to go on the joystick shaft ...

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3347/4595940310_8044d10631_b.jpg)

... but as you can see the rubber centering grommet won't slide in far enough because the shaft is too thick in the middle!

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3249/4595941076_601f9fbfa3_b.jpg)

here's the solution: parts of the old centering grommet were still on the shaft, completely rusted in. it blended in perfectly with the shaft, that's why i didn't notice that. with some wd-40 and a lot of brute force, i was finally able to remove the rest  :twisted:

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3326/4595940930_e23efc3559_b.jpg)

the shaft gets its anti-rust treatment and some nice shiny polish - looking much better now!

(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1250/4595940500_1293dc68d0_b.jpg)

i managed to find a nice replacement overlay with the original midway copyright message (no namco twobits s***) - this is going to look kickass on the powdercoated control panel!

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3315/4595324983_7c277941aa_b.jpg)

running around the overlay are those pellets that pac-man has to eat during gameplay with the large hexagonal power pellets in the corners

(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1356/4595942116_3db20ba1cd_b.jpg)

in four spots of the overlay the screws holding the panel in place go directly through those power pellets, which means that the pellets are actually missing if i simply put in the screws! have a look at this test i did with blackened screws. although this is what it looked originally (although i don't know if the screws were silver or black), i'm not happy with that - pac-man needs to have his power pellets!  ;D

(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1226/4595942580_65936a1f93_b.jpg)

so here's my solution for that:

step 1: paint the screws yellow

it took me three different spray cans to find the correct yellow color. i couldn't take the yellow from the sides, because that one is different from the overlay yellow, but in the end i succeeded!

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3353/4595941974_7877d52ca3_b.jpg)

(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1345/4595326427_bfc48bdac7_b.jpg)

step 2: print out some power pellet templates in the correct size on adhesive vinyl

(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1416/4595942336_91b44fd4c1_b.jpg)

step 3: cut out those templates

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4044/4595942442_d85cb1f614_b.jpg)

step 4: apply them on top of the yellow screws

(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1115/4595325781_e92a11eeaf_b.jpg)

step 5: "shoot" the screws again - this time with black

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3333/4595941816_8406723ac2_b.jpg)

step 6: carefully remove the templates

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4037/4595327011_6a377a682c_b.jpg)

step 7: dance around in joy because of the fantastic results!  :-* :-* :-*

(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1202/4595326887_819643ed99_b.jpg)

step 8: install them on the control panel

(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1145/4595327491_e29e7d0fb2_b.jpg)

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3221/4595943826_3e01aaa4fa_b.jpg)

and here's the control panel after its complete makeover!

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3392/4595327703_063888c90d_b.jpg)

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4059/4595327229_c8e9320eee_b.jpg)

(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1187/4595327867_cd04639d42_b.jpg)

JUST PERFECT - don't you think?  :)

to be continued ...

Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka (Pac-Man)
Post by: Muerto on May 10, 2010, 08:10:29 PM
wow! - nice detail with the screws!
and as always, nothing less than the Ully-treatment!
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka (Pac-Man)
Post by: DarthNuno on May 10, 2010, 08:24:57 PM
You're just crazy  :o  :arrow:

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4037/4595327011_6a377a682c_b.jpg)

...but it kick ass!  :-* :-* :-*

 :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace:
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka (Pac-Man)
Post by: ckong on May 10, 2010, 09:00:53 PM
That is really awesome and very clever. Will have to remember this one. Very nice end result.  :spaceace:
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka (Pac-Man)
Post by: scr33n on May 10, 2010, 09:19:48 PM
Wooooww nice touch Ully  :-* :-* :-*

 :spaceace:
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka (Pac-Man)
Post by: kroustibat on May 10, 2010, 09:22:46 PM
great job, totaly impressive
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka (Pac-Man)
Post by: Brry71 on May 10, 2010, 10:02:23 PM
WoW, SWEET!!! You must have a lot of patience.... Maybe I should try something like that as an anger management therapy  ;D
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka (Pac-Man)
Post by: Superully on June 07, 2010, 09:55:06 AM
guys, i need some input ;):

i'm about to install the t-molding on my pac-man, but i'm not sure which color to use. most of the original cabs came with the orange version, but there was also a production run with yellow molding. what i don't like about the orange is that orange is nowhere to be found on the cab's artwork. while i somehow like yellow, i'm thinking "too much yellow might be too much for the cab". what about red or blue? has anyone every tried / seen pac cabs with different t-molding colors than orange?
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka (Pac-Man)
Post by: scr33n on June 07, 2010, 10:16:26 AM
In the original flyer T-molding is black  :arrow:

(http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/2707/pacmansf.jpg) (http://img9.imageshack.us/i/pacmansf.jpg/)

 ???

Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka (Pac-Man)
Post by: kroustibat on June 07, 2010, 10:35:12 AM
imho you're right that yellow tmolding, would be too yellow. if it's was me, i'd keep the authenticity of the restoration with an orange tmolding, but as you don't like it  maybe some photoshopping of a pacman cab picture would help to decide
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka (Pac-Man)
Post by: Superully on June 07, 2010, 11:34:41 AM
i've also put this up on klov, but i value the opinion of the DLF crew  :-* here's what i put up on klov after some testing:

pac-land is yellow for the most part of the cab as well and it has blue t-molding which i think rocks! i've just done a short test with yellow, orange, red and blue where i put all four colors in the t-molding slot one after the other. i don't like yellow because it doesn't attract attention, the color of the red is off, blue looks kickass and orange ... well, orange is THE original color, but imho somehow it doesn't fit.

somehow my pac row would look great like this: yellow-colored pac-man cab on the left with blue t-molding, then ms pac-man and pac-mania both with black t-molding in the middle and on the right yellow-colored pac-land with blue t-molding again!

and if i ever get a jr. pac-man, i'm going to put it in the middle with orange t-molding ...

i need more input ;) 
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka (Pac-Man)
Post by: Superully on March 12, 2011, 06:51:19 PM

the restoration continues ... with the monitor bezel

as you can see on the following picture, the original glass monitor bezel has already "lost a lot of blood". of course i could buy a plexi reproduction, but i'm trying to save the original piece!

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5051/5519714885_597bce1e1e_b_d.jpg)

a couple more shots of the damaged areas - from the front and from the back :arrow:

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5252/5519713497_a58ccd60e7_b_d.jpg)

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5295/5520305118_4546126632_b_d.jpg)

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5013/5520304796_dafe37fd45_b_d.jpg)

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5091/5519714269_6ab87b5069_b_d.jpg)

ok, here's how i tackled the problem: i started by getting a couple of different types of yellow paint ...

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5213/5519745673_195e6cfc44_b_d.jpg)

... and tested them on a spare piece of glass!

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5260/5520335658_1a1aee46b9_b_d.jpg)

then i asked brian from gamestencils.com to cut me some stencil dots - which he did :-*

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5255/5519713311_80e3132054_b_d.jpg)

stencils applied with the correct spacing

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5058/5520303880_042317518e_b_d.jpg)

waka waka waka - i feel hungry, need to eat those dots ;)

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5138/5519713605_39b60c107f_b_d.jpg)

i covered the dots with some layers of black ...

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5013/5519713851_eb7d293847_b_d.jpg)

... and finally sealed the paint off with a layer of white!

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5178/5519713951_1a9b33168a_b_d.jpg)

the results are in: the yellow doesn't seem to be a perfect match (which is isn't), but it looks much closer in reality and the difference is close to impossible to spot "on location"

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5219/5520304306_1959e36786_b_d.jpg)

here's a "full body shot" of the entire bezel after doing a lot of touch ups in different areas as well - i'm extremely happy with the outcome. another original piece saved!!!

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5019/5519714517_406a433bd1_b_d.jpg)

to be continued ...
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka (Pac-Man)
Post by: Muerto on March 12, 2011, 06:56:39 PM
stop posting here (for the moment) and get that GORF road trip report going! - That´s an order!
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka (Pac-Man)
Post by: Superully on March 12, 2011, 07:04:19 PM
stop posting here (for the moment) and get that GORF road trip report going! - That´s an order!

i'm still waiting for some pics from someone else, so i thought i could do something else in the meantime 8)
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka (Pac-Man)
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on March 12, 2011, 08:42:51 PM
Yes ! , original bezel fixed up !
Nice job Ully !  :spaceace:
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka (Pac-Man)
Post by: Belike on March 13, 2011, 10:48:56 AM
I've never seen a restoration process like this on an original glass bezel, most of the people just replace them.
Fantastic job Ully! ;)
Title: Re: [Restoration] Waka Waka Waka (Pac-Man)
Post by: scr33n on March 13, 2011, 02:08:59 PM
Awesome bezel restoration Ully  :o :o

 :spaceace: