Dragon's Lair Fans - Arcade Lifestyle
General Chat => Arcade Lifestyle => Topic started by: level42 on November 12, 2011, 12:24:02 AM
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So.....let's suppose someone you know generously gives you THREE crates FULL of 80's 7" vinyl records ?
Well.....you need a nice place to store them:
http://youtu.be/CCzfqZglPig
Remember to switch to 1080p for the best quality picture !
I plan to do another video and I will record the sound with my electro-static microphone....the video cam's microphones don't do it justice.
The machine is completely original. So all caps etc. are still original too. Might need to replace some stuff in that section...
At least it needs a very good cleaning...and Etienne: THANK YOU !!!!!
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Awesome! Everyone Needs a Jukebox for their Game Room! ;D
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that is sooo cool! congratulations, fantastic catch!!! what's the story behind it?
i will definitely get a jukebox for my gameroom one day as well, but i haven't even started digging into this section of the hobby. there are zillions of models out there ...
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Now that is a great destiny for my old records !
SUPER :spaceace:
I never thought i will ever use them anymore since i dont have a record player anymore.
Great to see they have a great home !
good choice by the way, "always there" is a great song!
this brings a smile on my face :P
Too bad 12" dont fit, i did not drop those yet at your place :D
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Yup, but this one is the most beautiful of all "closed" jukeboxes IMHO :)
The story ? Not that much. Through this hobby I got also interested about jukeboxes. (We were at some fairs with a stand that also had a lot of them)
I knew that the open one's are something you don't buy "just like that" so I looked around for a closed one and by browsing a lot of them I saw this model and fell in love with it. The half moon shape on the side is so beautiful, the return of a lot of chrome and the purplish neon-like front and projected light on the "rear" is simply brilliant.
About 2 years ago I found the same model (through Martkplaats, just like this one) but defective in 020.
(Sorry, 020 = telephone code for a city they erratically declared our capital)
The problem was that it was in one of those old homes. Although it was on the ground floor, it would have had to be LIFTED through a pretty high leveled window. The walls of these buildings are also very thick. If you know that this one weighs 195 kg (about the weight of the SW cab, but since it's much smaller it is virtually much heavier to handle) I had to arrange at least 4 guys to get it out of there.
That, plus the fact that it was defective and I really didn't feel like having another project to work on but wanted a working one.
FFWD to a few weeks ago, sold the pin, new furniture and a gaping hole to fill ;) If I hadn't my wife probably would have bought another useless cabinet where even more useless stuff would be stored for eternity SO I searched Marktplaats again and here it was !
Although it has one operating problem (it sometimes forgets a track) it was working otherwise. It needs to be cleaned though. And some adjustments, minor work.
Oh and @Sonic, a jukebox would be a waste of space in my Game Room (it would take the place of almost 2 cabs, and my game room is small as you probably know) and I really wanted this one in my living room. The looks only are gracing our interior :)
Even my wife finds it very beautiful :)
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Very impessive machine, those lights give it a very special atmosphere.
Great catch, congrats. ;)
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Yeah man, can't thank you enough for those lovely 7" es. Some true classics in there but also a lot of stuff that I either forgot about or do not even know (maybe when I hear them). I think I can fill the jukebox at least twice with all those singles !! (It fits 80 singles).
About the 12"es: You don't happen to have a copy of Wham's Club Tropicana in there right ? Been looking for that on vinyl for ages...has a brilliant bass solo...
Now that is a great destiny for my old records !
SUPER :spaceace:
I never thought i will ever use them anymore since i dont have a record player anymore.
Great to see they have a great home !
good choice by the way, "always there" is a great song!
this brings a smile on my face :P
Too bad 12" dont fit, i did not drop those yet at your place :D
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About the 12"es: You don't happen to have a copy of Wham's Club Tropicana in there right ? Been looking for that on vinyl for ages...has a brilliant bass solo...
It is on the album "Fantastic" and also on "The Final" if single is not necessary. ;)
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thx for the story behind it, andré! how much do these things go for on marktplaats? and what is there difference between an open one and a closed one?
no matter what, i've got to get ready now, i'll be seeing some of you guys in person this afternoon - great!!! but before that, i have a cockpit to pick up ... ;D
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Yeah man, can't thank you enough for those lovely 7" es. Some true classics in there but also a lot of stuff that I either forgot about or do not even know (maybe when I hear them). I think I can fill the jukebox at least twice with all those singles !! (It fits 80 singles).
About the 12"es: You don't happen to have a copy of Wham's Club Tropicana in there right ? Been looking for that on vinyl for ages...has a brilliant bass solo...
Its one of my favorite Wham songs, together with "Everything she wants" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yf_Lwe6p-Cg&ob=av2e)
But unfortumately, no i don't have that.
But a simple marktplaats query has the 7"..
http://kopen.marktplaats.nl/search.php?o=1&ftb=1&searchmode=marktplaats&q=wham+club+tropicana&qsf=0 (http://kopen.marktplaats.nl/search.php?o=1&ftb=1&searchmode=marktplaats&q=wham+club+tropicana&qsf=0)
not the 12" atm though..
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For some weird reason the 12" is rare.
@Ully, they go for reasonable prices, anything between 200 and 600 euro.
I am not sure if it is a correct term internationally but with open I mean that you can see the mechanism playing the records. These were built like that until the mid 60s. Then they started "hiding" the mechanism in the boxes.
The open one's start at prices like 3000 euro.And much higher...
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@Ully, they go for reasonable prices, anything between 200 and 600 euro.
that really is reasonable!
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Finally found a source for on-line manuals. For some weird reason the jukebox "world" is still selling the service manuals of these machines because they are "copyrighted".
Since when can a user/service manual be copyrighted ?
And doesn't everyone who owns a machine (no matter how many previous owners there were) have the right to have those manuals ?
I think so, so here is a nice link for downloadable Jukebox manuals:
http://thearcadeboneyard.com/the_arcade_boneyard_pdf_library.php (Look under "Jukebox Manuals").
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those seeburg machines are great, i really really like this model :arrow:
(http://jukeboxesunlimited.com/products/Seeburg-Disco-a/Seeburg%20Disco-a-1-W.jpg)
(http://jukeboxesunlimited.com/products/Seeburg-Disco-a/Seeburg%20Disco-a-4-W.jpg)
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Wow, for anyone who owns or going to own a jukebox, this is an excellent free and on-line tool to make very nice inserts for all songs:
http://www.mikesarcade.com/arcade/titlestrips.html
Hadn't expected to find that on an arcade site ;)
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Wow, for anyone who owns or going to own a jukebox, this is an excellent free and on-line tool to make very nice inserts for all songs:
http://www.mikesarcade.com/arcade/titlestrips.html
Hadn't expected to find that on an arcade site ;)
WOW :o
Indeed...great!!
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here is another titlestrip download page that I used. there are very nice graphic templates here. :arrow:
http://members.casema.nl/roosmarco/titlestrips.htm (http://members.casema.nl/roosmarco/titlestrips.htm)
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Wohoo, did my first techie work on a jukebox. And man was it complicated !
When I bought it the guy I got it form had pulled out the "service panel" which has a number of switches, one ofmthem a credit switch. He always had the lid open a bit and when he wanted to play he gave some credits on it.
Thought there maybe was a freeplay option and indeed. Did some googling and it was as simple as removing a "price programming card" (nothing more than a couple of diodes and wire bridges on a board, country specific, mine is ...yu guessed it Netherlands) from the "black box". Gotta do it while powered off. Did it and presto, no more fiddling with credit buttons needed :)
@Thorsten: yeah sorry, I tried using your file, but I had trouble centering the texts when I changed them and with all respect it simply didnt work too comfortable i either INkscpae or Adobe Illustrator.
Then I googled and that was the second hit, Wth hindsight I remember I had found it already a couple of years ago but naturally forgot about it :)
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@Thorsten: yeah sorry, I tried using your file, but I had trouble centering the texts when I changed them and with all respect it simply didnt work too comfortable i either INkscpae or Adobe Illustrator.Then I googled and that was the second hit, Wth hindsight I remember I had found it already a couple of years ago but naturally forgot about it :)
No problem André.....The Mike'sArcade-Solution is by far easier ;)
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:)
FInally found where the tone controls were (the seller showed me, but I forgot). They're somewhat hidden at the back of the Amplifier. Wow, it sounds a LOT better after adjusting. They're not puts but three-way switches and they sound crackly, which is no wonder of course.
I think I'll be rebuilding at least the amp (but probably more) of the machine, especially the caps. 2011-1970= 41 years old caps....mmmmm.
One of the reasons for wanting to cap it is that there is a noticeable (although not TOO loud) hum, constantly when it's turned on.
I also still have a feeling that this mechanism is somewhere bolted down in transport mode. The reason why I think so is that during play (esp. at higher volume) you get the hum to amplify. It's like an acoustical feed-back which pick-ups are always sensitive to.
But I haven't figured out what bolts this should be....the manual focusses completely on the working of the digital selection and mechanics etc.
It's very interesting to know that this baby uses a toroid (ring-kern) memory to store the selections. So no RAM chips here !
A toroid memory uses several wires to store and read memory etc. by magnetizing and demagnetizing a ferrite ring. I knew about these memories, but this is the first time I actually have one :)
I think I found a way to restore the damaged artwork on the front panel. It looks like these are colored filter strips and behind it there is a piece of cardboard that diffuses the light so you can't see through. Now, one of the guys in the drum band does a lot of stage work (DJing, but also light, sound on stages etc.) so I asked if he had a color sample book of filters that they use for spotlights.
Sure enough he had one and he dropped it off yesterday. Looks like this is going to be the perfect (and cheap !) solution.
I'm talking about these filters:
http://www.leefilters.com/lighting/products/finder/ref:C49F6EC57981C4/
I think I can also fix the damaged painted on lila color around the Seeburg logo this way, but I'll need some cardboard or thick paper to diffuse the light going through there.
The stuff is dirt cheap, and since my friend orders them by the bucket loads I may get even a better price (maybe the best possible price IYKWIM ;)). The filters come in rolls and can be cut to size.
Now, if only I knew how the hell you open/remove the front side so I can actually reach the color part....I'll need to scrape everything blank (or cut if possible)......
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Filters are in....now some time...
I also ordered three new dirt-cheap-China electronic ballasts to replace the old one's. The old fluorescent ballasts in there are (of course) the old-fashioned transformer type. It seems time have gotten to them (especially one) because they produce a pretty loud hum, which is not so clearly present when playing records but totally irritating when it's just on (for the great lighting ;))
There are total 3 TL tubes so 3 of those ballasts. I had to search for 30W type ballasts, and was a bit scared to order these Chinese one's, but I figured that I will never have the jukebox on when I'm not present (in case the worst thing happens ;))
The electronic ballasts are not only running totally silent, they also drive the tubes with a _much_ higher frequency which produces a more "comfortable" light and it also lengthens the life-time of the tubes AND they use up much less power (not unimportant when there's three 30W tubes in there...
I also loosened up the "transport nuts". Ron Rich from phonoland.com mentioned I had to do that after he watched my Youtube video. Not only does it make the mechanism much quitter during changing and (un)loading records, it also improved the sound quality quite a big deal because the mechanism is now "on springs" instead of "one piece" with the rest of the box.
What even more improved sound quality was simply replacing the needles. It clearly was about time !! Much better defined sound now! (But we're not there yet....)
By the way, my favorite song in the box right now is this:
http://youtu.be/rGzU-GVNlqc
(better close your eyes, forget the video and just listen....)
Bit of a re-discovery as I had almost forgotten that excellent tune....thanks Etienne !!!
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Great to hear you made good improvements !
That is indeed a great song!
I am happy you like the records, they are in a good home now, and will even be played once in a while.
there are some gems between them, but also rubbish :D
Here they probably ended up in my attic collecting dust, so i am happy they are in your jukebox ;D
Did you clean them, i can imagine they could use some cleaning, since i was not too carefull in the past with them.. :oops:
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F*CK you GEMA!! >:(
(http://www.thludwig.de/pics/smilies/angry27.gif) (http://www.thludwig.de/pics/smilies/hammer.gif) (http://www.thludwig.de/pics/smilies/realangry.gif)
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F*CK you GEMA!! >:(
(http://www.thludwig.de/pics/smilies/angry27.gif) (http://www.thludwig.de/pics/smilies/hammer.gif) (http://www.thludwig.de/pics/smilies/realangry.gif)
Indeed, this is so sad.....in Holland BUMA (our GEMA) struck a deal with Youtube so we can enjoy those videos, I must say for one time I actually like BUMA because of that...
Anyway, the song was Tears Run Rings by Marc Almong (from Soft Cell). Brilliant tune that grows on you each play. I'll bring the 7" next time ;) :) ;)
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thanks....just listened to it and of course I know the tune :)
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.....and didn't like it ? ;) ;D
My runner up at the moment is:
http://youtu.be/OOGX-x9UlLs
(For Thorsten, it's Walzing Darling by Malcolm McLaren & The Bootzilla Orchestra)
Another brilliant song and I had about forgotten about it until I popped Etienne's copy in my Seeburg !!!!!!
Why isn't this played more often on the 80's stations ?
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Yep, another gem!
Love that song !
now start searching and dig out this 7" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuS6FA1WKD8) ;)
btw i like this Malcolm McLaren (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEexCpizIQE) song even more..
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.....and didn't like it ?
Like! :)
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now start searching and dig out this 7" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuS6FA1WKD8) ;)
btw i like this Malcolm McLaren (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEexCpizIQE) song even more..
+1
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Worked on the juke a bit today.
One of the problems with it that there was a pretty loud hum, even when there was nothing playing. The cause was quickly found: The fluorescent ballasts (esp. the one on the front). The originals were still in there. These are of course the old-fashioned transformer type. Transformers can start humming at their supply voltage (f.i. because of age) and this indeed was a clear 50 Hz hum.
So I had been thinking about replacing them with modern-day electronic ballasts.
The advantages are clear enough:
1) no more hum (most important one in this case)
2) saves energy
3) longer tube life
4) no starter required anymore
5) "instant" start, no flashing
6) the tube is run on a high frequency (f.i. 50000 Hz instead of 100 Hz) which gives a more steady light
7) a bit more light
So...I searched and searched and searched for 30W electronics ballasts but couldn't find them. Except for this one:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Electronic-Energy-Saving-Fluorescent-Light-Ballast-30W-/230718596170?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35b7e6644a#ht_1544wt_1297
It was so dirt cheap (and also looked that way) that I ordered three. They arrived last week. They were smaller then I had expected. I opened one and was amazed with the extremely simple electronics required.
It was screaming China all over the place. Engrish names on the box (the boxes looked like firework boxes). The "schematic" on the label indicate that the left two (white) wires are Ground....mmmm weird.....well they're not of course, they are actually the 230V mains connection :S
The PCB quality wasn't that bad, but I am the entire thing wouldn't pass any UL or European safety norms......
Soooooo, what to do....
Well I thought I'd give them at least a chance. I replaced the worst humming original one and .......I was impressed. Of course, because no more starter is needed I needed to re-arrange the wiring a bit but that was easy enough.
Anyway, it worked great right away, indeed no flashing start-up.
I had the jukebox turned on for an hour or two and nothing bad happened. Then I checked the temperature (by hand) of the electronic ballast and it was completely cool (room temp.). This was a HUGE difference with the original ballast which got pretty damn hot....
Then I checked the tube temperature and this was also running much cooler than the tubes which still had the original ballasts.
It's very clear that this seriously saves energy, esp. if you have 3 tubes running....I mean, this box looks so cool that I'll want to have it turned on just for the cool lighting...
So.....because I will NEVER let the jukebox powered on when I'm away, I decided to use the little Chinese fellows...
Everything is originally fused so...let's say little can go wrong :)
Oh and of course, the hum had completely disappeared after I had replaced all three ballasts. Me like !
In fact, the less generation of heat if a very good thing for the artwork on the several glasses in the jukebox, and this made me think further, that this would also be a good solution for our cabs. Of course, because we mostly will not have these games on for very much hours, the power consumption difference is not that big, but generating little (or at least much less) heat right behind the (precious) marquee is a very good thing.....
It also saves the worries about starters etc.
It's not like I will now go exchange all the original ballasts in my cabs, but I think I will consider doing it on my next restoration(s).
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all in all a succes ! thats good news.
and the hum is gone, thats the most important :spaceace:
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Yep it's definitely gone for 95%. The "rest" is hum from the speakers but it's WAAAAAYYY silent compared to the transformer(s).
Anyway, still opened the amp and controller units to have a look today.....because I felt a 40 year old machine might need some new caps.....
(http://gallery.me.com/andre.huijts/101039/DSCF7566/web.jpg?ver=13246813510001)
(http://gallery.me.com/andre.huijts/101039/DSCF7568/web.jpg?ver=13246813360001)
Going to be an expensive cap-kit !!! Of course they are all axial. They actually look amazingly good for their age, no leaks....
I think those big one's might be paper caps.... look at the date-code on the biggest one, 7026 (1970, week 26)....almost as old as I am :P
Gonna be fun to measure them tomorrow, I'm _really_ interested in what they will show :)
Replacing is going to cost......axial is already much more expensive and I guess I'm going to want some audio-quality one's for this baby....
Just another picture:
(http://gallery.me.com/andre.huijts/101039/DSCF7569/web.jpg?ver=13246813280001)
The bottom (or top ?) side of the amp.
The switches from top to bottom:
-scratch compensation (of course turned on minimum)
-treble (three positions)
-bass
-record equalization, not sure what this exactly does...
All of them will need some good cleaning, maybe replacing. They sound scratchy when moved. In wrong position (half-way between two "selections" f.i.) it definitely influences the sound quality....
THe terminals are for the speakers. Need to find out why the right bass speakers isn't working....
Planning on replacing the speakers (in due time). I think it can sound a _LOT_ better with some better quality speakers....
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intersting to follow your write-ups, andré. although a jukebox is a completely different "instrument", it also has "arcadian ingredients" like caps and ballasts which could go bad over the years!
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I am also curious to the result of the cap measuring.
i think those caps look still very good after all those years.
i think you dont have many failure caps in there
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I am also curious to the result of the cap measuring.
i think those caps look still very good after all those years.
i think you dont have many failure caps in there
Yeah they look very good ! Not sure if they really are paper caps although the outside looks like cardboard to me... they definitly must be electrolytic one's though....
Did you notice the old-fashioned build up of all the electronics ? Only a few small PCB's a lot of the other stuff is simply mounted "in free air". The large caps are mounted with a clamp which will prove to be another hurdle to find (fitting) replacements....
Gonna do some first measurements right.....now !
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Well.....its amazing. The really big ones seem to be in TOP condition !
F.I. the largest one is specced at 2700 uF. It shows over 3500uF and an ESR of just 0.08 !!!
All the other large ones show similar values !
Im impressed !!!
The large ones are Sprague branded and made in the USA.
The small aluminium ones show good values too. These are Siemens caps.
Looks like no cap-kit is needed !!
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Do you mind bringing that machine over next week and check some cap's from the mario bros monitor?
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Sure no problem! What is the monitor showing ? Fold over ?
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if there is a cap that dont fit, (smaller) you can wrap tape around it untill the old diameter is reached, i have a roll of cupper tape if you need
or maybe just normal tape, or some piece of rubber (oude binnenband van fiets ofzo :D)
I have a feeling that the older the cap the more chance is that its good, i mean back in the days they still made good stuff instead of crappy parts.
(less "wegwerp maatschappij")
sorry for some dutch expressions guys, i dont know how to say that in english ;)
Do you mind bringing that machine over next week and check some cap's from the mario bros monitor?
at first i thought the jukebox :D
you know how much is a capkit, and also how much work it is, so if there is only 1 bad cap, this will be a good idea i think ;)
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Yeah, i kept thinking "they dont make them like that anymore...."
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It collapsed and the colors aren't that bright anymore. Not so much as the dk monitor was but still unplayable.
Great that you can take it with you, this will save Etienne some time in the feature! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
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Collapse ? Horizontal or vertical line ? Could be more serious than a cap...
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vertical, but i'll show you when you visit.
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Damn, sorry to read that gyruss.
I bought it as working with faded color....
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My dk was much worse so don't worry, with a little help from my friends this baby will be up and running in no time.
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My dk was much worse so don't worry, with a little help from my friends this baby will be up and running in no time.
A capkit did make the DK's monitor like new...
I am curious how many "bad" caps are in this MB, my guess is not alot..
[/leaving offtopic mode now ;)]
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Now isn't that nice ?
My brother texted me a couple of weeks ago that he still had a lot of 7" (and some LPs and maxi-singles) still at home for my jukebox. He said it was still from his "radio pirate" era....
Today he brought them and it turned out that almost 30 of the singles WERE MINE !!!!!
I'm pretty sure it was my entire "collection" from my youth !!!!! TOO cool really to see them again after SO many years.....on the other hand how DA F.... did he get my singles !!! ;) ;) ;)
;D ;D ;D
Anyway about all of them are of course excellent jukebox fodder !!!
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(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/429889_3212995919969_1118405388_33167438_708984466_n.jpg)
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One of the cool rediscovererd song in my childhood single collection :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whdLXM19C3Y&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Dutch band "The Mo" with the song Cheese :)
Wonder what happened to them.....one hit wonder...
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Oh no...not a one hit wonder....this was another but with a different singer I bet...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWCK3anBTDU&feature=youtube_gdata_player
I remember this was considered pretty alternative music back then....heh...
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absolutely, i never heard of them.
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Thought I'd bore you with the latest additions, as mentioned a lot of them are mine from my youth, about half of them are not. Definitly not sure if all of them will end up in the jukebox but it's good to have the titles ready ;)
(http://gallery.me.com/andre.huijts/100675/titlestrips1/web.jpg?ver=13319057900001)
(http://gallery.me.com/andre.huijts/100675/titlestrips2/web.jpg?ver=13319055850001)
(http://gallery.me.com/andre.huijts/100675/titlestrips3/web.jpg?ver=13319055800001)
I noticed a flaw in the title creator, the publisher info (where I put in the year) is not ending up in the PDF file at title nr. 7 . I informed Mike of this, probably a small bug...)
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Another flaw: it doesn't seem to correctly know the letter é - see the left column of the first page (José and André van Duin).
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harry klorkestein! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptGJ8wzeGDE) :D :spaceace:
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Another flaw: it doesn't seem to correctly know the letter é - see the left column of the first page (José and André van Duin).
Yup, well spotted and noticed it too. Will pass it on...
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YES !!! Getting some brand new "fodder" for my Seeburg:
I first ordered these two:
(http://www.caroemerald.com/media/thumbs/shop/5124b076a767d4bc09484a8a2b60be833d0586b6/396x300/e9d26f3d8a331f0983dd44b354bc404363ce7db4-1303894752-0.png)
(http://www.caroemerald.com/media/thumbs/shop/223ed14eb0df3d1889d8f32689b6ccb0146d7957/396x300/fb059a3d78163668a0ecc0695f983da5b0008bcf-1335267636-0.png)
But I missed her biggest hit, A Night Like This in the webstore (http://www.caroemerald.com/store/music/#).
Sent the online store a mail, and sure enough they knew a record store where they still had some copies of this VERY limited release (think 500 copies !)
(http://s.dsimg.com/image/R-2837015-1303314952.jpeg)
(http://s.dsimg.com/image/R-2837015-1307387352.jpeg)
Mailed them and they reserved one for me, picking that one up tomorrow ! Going to be very cool to hear this new music from an ancient Jukebox ! And IMHO the music style perfectly fits a jukebox too :)
These are going to be valuable collector items ;D ;D
These were released as promotion for Record Store Day: www.recordstoreday.nl
Good initiative !
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Cool, I love Caro Emerald. Great find! ;D ;D
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If anyone wants a copy of "A Night Like This" for their Jukebox.....let me know....he had several copies left....
Price is around 8/9 Euro.
It's this song: http://youtu.be/74LXx0wSqMI
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I must look through my old box of 7" singles, see if I can donate a few hits to the jukebox :)
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That would be great :) !
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Caro Emerald is the perfect genre for a jukebox !
Totally sounds like "jukebox music" to me
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André, do you have Lessons in Love for this beauty?
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André, do you have Lessons in Love for this beauty?
Bump ;)
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oops, missed that.....ammmmmmm....to be honest....... I don't know !
I incidentally bought a number of L42 7"es at the store where I also picked up the Caro Emerald single, one of them was Love Meeting Love which is pretty rare, although it was the Polydor re-issue and not the Elite original....but I didn't buy Lessons in Love for sure. I might have it upstairs somewhere in my collection I'd have to check.... ;D
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You already have one. ;)
(http://images-mediawiki-sites.thefullwiki.org/05/2/6/7/55286691595308874.jpg)
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:spaceace: :spaceace: buddy, :spaceace: ;D
And you should know mind tricks don't work on a Jedi ;D
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:spaceace: :spaceace: buddy, :spaceace: ;D
And you should know mind tricks don't work on a Jedi ;D
;D ;D ;D
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My friends....
I have decided that this nice Jukebox must leave.
The fact is that......well......it's just standing there.....it just doesn't get used that much anymore......if at all.
And since I'd love to see it go to a good home....
So....what are the good and the bad ?
Good: it works....mostly, it's in pretty nice shape and is set on freeplay
Bad: it just really needs a complete overhaul. You should either bring it to a good jukebox restore shop to have it given a complete overhaul, or take all the time and mechanical skills (which I lack) to do it yourself.
I DID CHECK ALLLLLLL the caps in the machine with my ESR meter and each and every single one of them are in PERFECT condition. Do not let anyone tell you you need to replace these !!! They are 2 brands, Sprague and Siemens which are both top-notch and still great after 40+ years...what WILL need replacement or at least cleaning is the pots....as long as you don't touch anything it sounds fine, but when you fiddle with the amp settings f.i. you hear they are scratchy.
Also bad: the "see through" striping on the top left glass....I already scratched it away and have the see-through colored vinyl for it but....it still needs to be done. OR find a replacement glass....but I have never come across the right one.
Also bad: it sometimes just stops playing. When you then enter a new song it starts again with the playlists it was already programmed with....not a biggy.
Oh and 1 bass speaker is not working, don't know if it's the speaker itself or something in the amp or wiring, but.....in reality...it already sounds fine now :)
Another remark: I replaced the two fluorescent tube transformers by two VERY cheap chinese one's. They work great and (most important) are very silent ,but the visual quality was....uhmmmm, well I never trusted them to be on without me being around, but then again, who leaves a jukebox on when he's not around ? I will include the original (heavy) transformers so you can go original if you want but they produce a pretty damn loud and annoying hmmmmmmm all the time.
Another reason for me selling this is that it is my plan to put an arcade game in it's spot. I want a game inside my home. This will make me play it...and maybe even work on it ;)
The machine can go for the price I paid for it...350 Euro.
Oh and.....you have to pick it up here. And bring at least TWO guys with you who can do some heavy lifting.....this machines ways a ton....
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Just realized all pics and videos are gone.... I will post some A.S.A.P....
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Good luck with the sale, it's a really beautiful machine, if i had the skills and space i would get it for sure.
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Thanks buddy, yeah it's the most beautiful closed jukebox IMHO...but sometimes you just have to let stuff go .....I think it will have to go to Marktplaats....I'm probably also to honest about it ;)
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I think it looks very nice. Good luck with the sale
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Is it still available? I maybe want to store it as a backup for my own bandshell. Got my bandshell playing again but I also realized that in the future some parts might be hard to come by.
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Yes it's still here Leo ! That actually did cross my mind ! :)