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« Reply #30 on: November 27, 2013, 04:27:33 PM »

I have vector templates for the CP if you like.


yes, I like :)

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« Reply #31 on: November 28, 2013, 02:10:07 PM »
please pm me your email adress, then i can send you the login and stuff like that  ;)

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« Reply #32 on: December 05, 2013, 06:01:05 PM »
Wow, that is one rusting hulk to start off with. Does look reasonably complete, however.

Yes, it's in a Universal type cab - I have a light blue one of those that's the same design with the power supply mounted sideways. I should have the manual for it also if one hasn't been scanned for it yet (there are several types of Universal cabinet identified by a "type code"). Let me know and I can scan it for you. The only difference will be that the pinout of the edge connector will be for Eyes (Bela to confirm the native Zac Eyes board matches the US version, since he has a Zac one). The power supply IIRC is a 1B1126 as usual for that era.

If you need pictures from this style of cab (sideways power supply variant) I can get them for you. Also, if no one has scanned in a good CPO for Eyes yet (Bela, do you have one that you scanned?) I can scan mine. Just let me know what information you need (PM or email me).

Great find!

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« Reply #33 on: December 05, 2013, 07:32:33 PM »
Marco did scan it and uploaded it in my server, but a second "different" scan never hurts Paul  ;)

Looks like i need to create a account here for you ?  ::)

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« Reply #34 on: December 06, 2013, 08:58:24 AM »
I have both Eyes pcbs (Zaccaria/Rockola), they share the same pinout, the only difference is that daughtercard at c6.

I will send an original manual to Marco from the universal type, no need to scan. ;)
About the cpo, I don't have the scan yet and I will also apply to a mini Zacc like yours, so a scan would be great, but only if it does not hurt the painting ony our plexi, I tried to remove a Scramble cpo a few years back and half of the paint remained on the wooden panel. :-\

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« Reply #35 on: December 06, 2013, 09:47:36 AM »
Bela, the scan and cleaned up version are on my server  ;)

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« Reply #36 on: December 06, 2013, 11:16:43 AM »
Bela, the scan and cleaned up version are on my server  ;)

I hope the scan and the cleaned up version are ok for you.

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« Reply #37 on: December 06, 2013, 12:41:50 PM »
That is great, looks kickass. :D
I thought the full upright Eyes have the usual narrower cpo like Scramble, etc., but seems like this one is the same size as they used on the minis. ;)

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« Reply #38 on: December 06, 2013, 03:37:58 PM »
OK, cool, sounds like you're all set for the CPO and manual. I have two manuals for two Universals in this type of cab:

* Z040 A/2 (28/1/82) that uses a CEC 158 power brick with built in back door interlock switch.
* Z040 B/0 (7/12/83) that uses a CEC 157 power brick without built in interlock switch.

The two cabinet wiring diagram schematics are laid out completely differently between the two so there maybe other differences in addition to the brick. I've seen two different control panel connectors used (that are incompatible). If the manual you have turns out to be a mismatch, I can scan the other one :)

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« Reply #39 on: December 06, 2013, 04:32:59 PM »
Email send paul  ;)

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« Reply #40 on: December 06, 2013, 09:45:33 PM »
Thank you for your help. Once i finish to clean the wood i ll start with the electrical parts....
Do you have any picture of the cardboard? Just to understand which shape it has.

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« Reply #41 on: December 06, 2013, 10:40:37 PM »
Likely plain black, I've made a repro one myself before:

http://www.zzzaccaria.com/MrDoRestoration.htm

...scoot about half way down the page.

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« Reply #42 on: December 07, 2013, 09:46:11 AM »
I have the file for the Phoenix cardboard bezel, it is the same size, just ask the printshop to print it simply black. :D



I think Etienne also have this file, you can download it from his server. ;)

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« Reply #43 on: December 09, 2013, 02:24:51 AM »
The monitor cut-out is not square on this type of cab but curved so you'll need a craft knife and template. To be sure the artwork is the right size, I measured the old torn one out of my Universal-based Mr.Do!



As for my light blue star Universal, I forgot to take up my drill to pop the back door lock :| However, the coin door was open so I got some shots of the power areas:-






Full resolution pictures:

http://www.zzzaccaria.com/images/Projects/GyrussRestoration/FR/DSCN0244.JPG
http://www.zzzaccaria.com/images/Projects/GyrussRestoration/FR/DSCN0246.JPG
http://www.zzzaccaria.com/images/Projects/GyrussRestoration/FR/DSCN0247.JPG
http://www.zzzaccaria.com/images/Projects/GyrussRestoration/FR/DSCN0248.JPG
http://www.zzzaccaria.com/images/Projects/GyrussRestoration/FR/DSCN0249.JPG
http://www.zzzaccaria.com/images/Projects/GyrussRestoration/FR/DSCN0250.JPG

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« Reply #44 on: December 09, 2013, 06:49:36 AM »
I did indeed do a replica on the cardboard bezel, but mine came out of a "mini" not the full upright.

are they the same ?

Found some time to measure the cardboard bezel..




Lets tape it to the table and try to straighten it as flat as possible.




Height: 91,5 cm.




width: 59,9 cm.




Center width monitor hole: 30 cm.




Center Height monitor hole: 39,4 cm.




Distance monitor hole from bottom: 3 cm.



And at last a vector PDF on scale..

http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/zaccbezel/cardboard.pdf

The monitor hole is a bit curved, and the difference between the center and the top / bottom opening untill the rounded corner is 1 cm.

The radius of the corners is 3 cm.

I hope this helps you to reproduce a cardboard bezel.  ;)

EDIT:

I see you need a horizontal version...  :-\

Perhaps Bela can provide me the measurements of the distance from the bottom of a horizontal version, then i can copy my PDF and adjust that to a horizontal version..

EDIT 2:

Horizontal version :

http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/zaccbezel/cardboard2.pdf
« Last Edit: December 09, 2013, 06:57:47 AM by Etienne MacGyver »