Dragon's Lair Fans - Arcade Lifestyle
General Chat => Technical Area => Topic started by: f4brice on February 11, 2013, 06:52:49 AM
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Hello.
This PCB has been on a shelf at home for a long.
Could you please help me to identify it ?
(http://img3.uplood.fr/free/thumbnails/c3no_20130210_174243_7215_img.jpg) (http://www.uplood.fr/visu.php?url=http://img3.uplood.fr/free/c3no_20130210_174243_7215_img.jpg)
All original chips where build on 1979 ~ 1980.
Big black chip on bottom is a Z80 CPU.
It seems to have 5 x Texas 2516 EPROMS as CPU code.
In the middle is missing a 2101 RAM chip (empty socket), removed by me some years ago.
On the left, there are 2 other Texas 2516 EPROMS (gfx ??? ).
On the top left corner, there are 5 x DIL-16 chips on a socket, with maybe 2 missing chips.
I could dump EPROMs and ask MAME to identify dumps, but my EPROM programmer doesn't handle 2516's.
It looks like an Atari PCB for me, but all Atari PCB I own do have an explicit visible Atari signature on them.
Thanks for your help ! :)
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Same pcb as a Galaxian pcb
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Looks like its missing the power regulator
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Same pcb as a Galaxian pcb
Yeah, seems you got it. :-*
It's very close to a Galaxian hardware indeed !
Looks like its missing the power regulator
Yep, I forgot to mention this.
There was probably a TO3 +5V voltage regulator on the top-right corner.
The tracks side of the PCB shows unsoldering actions.
Thanks a lot.
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It is modded for DC voltage supply instead of the original AC supply. You can see that where the orange wires are hacked in (and the rectifying diodes removed).
It's pretty weird if your programmer cannot read 2516's. If it can read 2716's than it can read 2516's too as these are the same:
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/80532-25-what-diff-eprom-eprom#t513989
Not sure how you ID your ROM files using MAME, but I am lazy and always use this site:
http://romident.coinopflorida.com
No installing of programs or manual things to do, simply "upload" your ROM file and you'll see what it is.
Unless they are Scramble ROMs...... :roll:
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There is a romident built into MAME - do the help from the MAME command line and it'll show you the options to use it. Allows you to point at a dir with the ROM files in and it'll go through the set and look for a match in it's database. You don't need to download any ROMS as it uses the built in checksums to ID.
Paul.
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It is modded for DC voltage supply instead of the original AC supply. You can see that where the orange wires are hacked in (and the rectifying diodes removed).
Yep. The PCB edge connector has burn traces.
There is also a big ceramic resistor missing, involved in the voltage regulator. Capacitors have been removed/changed.
It's pretty weird if your programmer cannot read 2516's. If it can read 2716's than it can read 2516's too as these are the same:
In fact, I didn't went through the 2516 datasheet. ::)
I assumed that "25xx" = old EPROM with tripple voltage input (-5/+5/+12), which is wrong !
Not sure how you ID your ROM files using MAME
Open command-line tools, CD to Mame's executable folder and invoke this command :
mame -romident file.bin
Example :
(http://img3.uplood.fr/free/g91c_snap.png) (http://www.uplood.fr/visu.php?url=http://img3.uplood.fr/free/g91c_snap.png)
As PaulSwan said, no need to have any ROM set stored on your hard drive.
Mame uses its internal build-in database to answer this request.
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Ah nice to know, but I avoid command line stuff when I can ;) ;)