Dragon's Lair Fans - Arcade Lifestyle
General Chat => Arcade Lifestyle => Topic started by: DarthNuno on December 19, 2008, 07:36:44 PM
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First, the road trip :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/news/gyruss-jr.jpg) (https://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=483.0)
The game was still in the Sam's garage ... until now ;D Yes, It's time to bring it 'at home' 8) :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyruss_1.jpg)
For the first time, the workshop starts inside the my car :D I've to clean 'under' the cabinet, or then I'll make dirty the new carpet :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyruss_2.jpg)
Ok, it's clean... let's unload it... Some ducks are watching me ;D No ... this is no food :D
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyruss_3.jpg)
And.... finally inside the 'messy' v2 :oops: 8) :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyruss_4.jpg)
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bruno before v3 i think you need v4 - the workshop ;D,you don't want to mess that lovely gameroom
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bruno before v3 i think you need v4 - the workshop ;D,you don't want to mess that lovely gameroom
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LOL... Hopefully my wife doesn't read this board... so I can tell ya' : 'The first floor of our house would be back again the 'Arcade workshop' ::) ;)
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The serial number : 012861 :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyruss-1.jpg)
Ok, under the plexi/bezel, there is an other cardboard bezel, but it is very damaged (It is torn and bent) :ghost:. I'll check it later.
Now have a look at the monitor and its frame :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyruss-2.jpg)
It's just dropped on the cab, there is no screws fixed between the metal monitor frame and the brackets in the cabinet :o ???
That is the reason why I heard noises during the road trip : the monitor was moving inside the cab :o :ghost:
In addition, that monitor frame doesn't match the bracket of the cabinet ! The holes in the metal frame don't match any hole from the bracket.
So why the hell that monitor has been dropped inside that cab ?
Nothing else inside the cab, except the a power supply.
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyruss-3.jpg)
Ok let's start to work. First I've to restore the marquee retainer and the bezel retainer, full of rust :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyruss-4.jpg)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyruss-5.jpg)
After a first 'sanding' session :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyruss-6.jpg)
Let's use my usual Rust remover :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyruss-7.jpg)
And finish the work manually...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyruss-8.jpg)
One layer of primer :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyruss-9.jpg)
Than two layers of black :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyruss-10.jpg)
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Ok, even if it's not the original monitor frame, I'll try to use it.
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyruss_frame1.jpg)
As I said previously, these holes don't match the metal brackets inside the cabinet :? :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyruss_frame2.jpg)
Let's fix that ;) :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyruss_frame3.jpg)
Done :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyruss_frame4.jpg)
The monitor that was 'dropped' inside that cab' is not working.
OK let's give to that Gyruss a brand new TV/Monitor :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyruss_frame5.jpg)
Usual stuff ;D :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyruss_frame6.jpg)
The transplantation is finished :-* :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyruss_frame7.jpg)
On location :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyruss_frame8.jpg)
Great, I can access the hidden service menu ... ::) :P :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyruss_frame9.jpg)
... and the usual Geometry settings 8) :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyruss_frame10.jpg)
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Looking Great!!! You've already got 2009 off to a great start!!!! ;D ;D ;D
Hey, Glad to see I'm helping with your project!... well, at least keeping your Dr Pepper Cold! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :lol:
(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h60/sonic_1992/Message%20board%20pix/untitled3.jpg)
Great Work!!! Keep It Up!!! :spaceace: :spaceace:
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Hehe Barry ;) Yes, as you can see it's not just a decoration... Well done :-* :spaceace:
OK, let's make the magical cable : VGA to SCART :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyruss_centuri_1.jpg)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyruss_centuri_2.jpg)
I'm using the best configuration ever : Ati+SB16 / AdvanceMame under DOS :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyruss_centuri_3.jpg)
It gives me the *PERFECT* Gyruss Arcade Experience without having the board :arrow:
- perfect ratio picture
- pixel rendering 1:1
- 60 Hz refresh via the native RGB signal
*EXACT GAMEPLAY* :-* :-* :-*
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyruss_centuri_4.jpg)
See the quality of the display/screen :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyruss_centuri_5.jpg)
RGB scanline ... I love it :-* :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyruss_centuri_6.jpg)
Impossible to make the difference between the real board and this setup ! 8)
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Easy stuff today :P
...Let there be light :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyruss_neon1.jpg)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyruss_neon2.jpg)
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Nice!
I do like Gyruss, great music!
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I do like Gyruss, great music!
The game's background music is an electronic, fast-paced arrangement of J. S. Bach's Toccata and Fugue in D minor, BWV 565; this particular arrangement is superficially similar in sound to "Toccata", a rock arrangement by the UK-based instrumentalist group Sky. Gyruss is notable for using "stereo" sound, which according to the bonus material for Konami Arcade Classics, was achieved by utilizing discrete audio circuits. (Gyruss on Wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyruss)) ::) ;)
Ok, let's have a look at the control panel...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyruss_control_panel1.jpg)
... very used ...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyruss_control_panel2.jpg)
...impossible to move the joystick?! :ghost: :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyruss_control_panel3.jpg)
Let's remove everything.
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyruss_control_panel4.jpg)
Rust... of course :-X
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyruss_control_panel5.jpg)
Did 'ya say dirty ?
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyruss_control_panel6.jpg)
As usual, two baths... the left one is water + strong soap, the right one is rust-remover :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyruss_control_panel7.jpg)
24 hours... it looks better, but of course... it's still 'used' ... no miracle with that :-\
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyruss_control_panel8.jpg)
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Are those leaf or microswitch buttons?
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Are those leaf or microswitch buttons?
leaf :-*
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The control panel overlay is very 'used' :-\ :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyruss_control_panel_overlay_tc1.jpg)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyruss_control_panel_overlay_tc2.jpg)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyruss_control_panel_overlay_tc3.jpg)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyruss_control_panel_overlay_tc4.jpg)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyruss_control_panel_overlay_tc5.jpg)
Usually, this *magic* sponge does miracle :roll: :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyruss_control_panel_overlay_tc6.jpg)
Let's go...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyruss_control_panel_overlay_tc7.jpg)
Well, it's better...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyruss_control_panel_overlay_tc8.jpg)
...but some area are too used. It's not dirt, it's used or damaged :oops: Impossible to do better than this :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyruss_control_panel_overlay_tc9.jpg)
I think I'll live with that :) The worst area is the upper part, in the curve, but I'm sure It won't be too visible when I'll put back the panel on the cabinet. It's a kind of 'hidden area' for the player after all ;)
Used means also 'vintage' :-*
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The original joystick is damaged, and some parts of it are missing, but I've just got a NOS :-* :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyruss_joystick1.jpg)
Same manufacturer : MONROE ELECTONICS.
I love NOS :-* :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyruss_joystick2.jpg)
Let's put back the buttons and that new joystick onto the panel, and start *at least* a first game on Gyruss :P ;D :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyruss_joystick5.jpg)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyruss_joystick6.jpg)
It plays great ! I love Gyruss :)
OK, let's refresh the screws. After the 'Rust remover' bath, I sand them with a Dremel...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyruss_joystick3.jpg)
...and I paint them (primer + 2 layers of mate black) ... usual mushrooms picture ::) ;D :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyruss_joystick4.jpg)
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Bruno....
Gyruss is a great game and a great cab (I love it :-* :-*) and deserves a new control panel overlay 8) :spaceace:
buy a new one from arcadeshop.com please :P :wink:
(http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/8183/gyrussuprightcpogk7.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
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Yeps Screen, I'm sure I'll look better with a new CPO repro, but I'm fine with this one, even with the scratches on it, because it's the original one.
I love to think about the thousands of hands who played that game on that panel in the past :roll: ;D ...and now... many years later ... in an other country ... far far away (this is an US import cab') ... that same panel is ready for a new generation of players :P
OK, here's the primary bezel...it was like a bubble of chewing gum... totally bended, rolled on itself :evil:
So I putted few heavy books on it, in order to give it its original shape. Here's the result after few weeks :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyruss-bezel1.jpg)
Because I didn't use the original monitor frame, the position of the frame I've used is not exactly the same than the one 'expected' by the bezel :oops: See by ourself ... the bezel is supposed to hide the speakers, but it doesn't :-\ :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyruss-bezel2.jpg)
Two solutions : create a new bezel from scratch...or adapt this one. Let's try the second solution first.
Let's cut two pieces of cardboard :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyruss-bezel3.jpg)
...and paint them :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyruss-bezel4.jpg)
Perfect :-* :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyruss-bezel5.jpg)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyruss-bezel6.jpg)
Cool... the end is very near ... but for now, let's take some time to play on the game ;) :-* :-* :-*
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyruss-bezel8.jpg)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyruss-bezel7.jpg)
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Nice work. Now you need to find yourself a nice cardboard bezel.
(http://i24.ebayimg.com/05/i/001/23/f8/40b8_1.JPG)
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Now you need to find yourself a nice cardboard bezel.
Yes Spyridon,
I'm waiting for a reproduction soon ;)
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Back on this 8)
I've used the great scan available on this Klov post (http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=68615&).
Here's the file : Gyruss bezel (http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/gyruss/gyruss_bezel.png).
Now printed ;) :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyrus_bezel_1.jpg)
Let's check the size with the Plexiglas bezel on it :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyrus_bezel_2.jpg)
The scan/print is a little bit 'oversize' as you can see, but I'm fine with that :)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyrus_bezel_3.jpg)
Check out the great quality of the scan and print! No pixel effect at all :-* :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyrus_bezel_4.jpg)
Ok, now I need solid support for that new repro 'bezel artwork', printed on an usual vinyl roll. What about this cardboard box ::) :P :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyrus_bezel_5.jpg)
Let cut a piece of the same size than the Plexiglas bezel...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyrus_bezel_6.jpg)
Now, let's try to beat the Gyruss world record ;D ;D ;D :spaceace:
OK, let's cut the artwork ...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyrus_bezel_7.jpg)
Done :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyrus_bezel_8.jpg)
Of course, let's cut the same shape in my piece of cardboard ;) :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyrus_bezel_9.jpg)
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Check out the great quality of the scan and print! No pixel effect at all :-* :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyrus_bezel_4.jpg)
Is this printed by your friend who owns the print shop? It looks really good! ;)
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Is this printed by your friend who owns the print shop? It looks really good! ;)
Yes ;) Great job on this :-*
Before finishing the work on that bezel, I still have an old problem to fix. The new Monitor I'm using, once in the cabinet, has a part of the board 'too long', and ... I'm not able to put the back door anymore :o
The solution is : a router ;) :arrow: Here's what I've done inside the back door :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyruss_backdoor_1.jpg)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyruss_backdoor_2.jpg)
Now, I can finally put back the original coin door :P :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyruss_backdoor_3.jpg)
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Is this printed by your friend who owns the print shop? It looks really good! ;)
Yes ;) Great job on this :-*
bruno, your in that perfect position that you know the right people. a friend with a print shop just around the corner - damn, i'm jealous! ;)
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Now printed ;) :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyrus_bezel_1.jpg)
Great print quality :spaceace: :spaceace: the back is adesive?
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bruno, your in that perfect position that you know the right people. a friend with a print shop just around the corner - damn, i'm jealous! ;)
Yes, It'll help a lot ;)
Great print quality :spaceace: :spaceace: the back is adesive?
Yes, you'll see in the coming pictures ;)
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Let's check if the cardboard fits...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/bezel_gyruss_1.jpg)
Yes, but ... the groove is not large enough for the plastic bezel AND my custom bezel in cardboard, so let's reduce the size of the cardboard, like this :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/bezel_gyruss_2.jpg)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/bezel_gyruss_3.jpg)
Now, let's paint the edge in black, so no one will be able to see any difference with the original cardboard bezel :P :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/bezel_gyruss_4.jpg)
Now, I presume you understand what will happen ;D :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/bezel_gyruss_5.jpg)
Let's do it slowly :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/bezel_gyruss_6.jpg)
This it it! Great :-*
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/bezel_gyruss_7.jpg)
Let's put it on the game and... :arrow:
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(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/bezel_gyruss_9.jpg)
I don't like to use a flash for taking cabs' pictures, but you have to see the new bezel! Wonderful :-* :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/bezel_gyruss_8.jpg)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/bezel_gyruss_10.jpg)
This is it! I mean this is really it :P :P :P Now that the work is done... I can just enjoy playing it :-* :-* :-*
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/bezel_gyruss_11.jpg)
Well, I used to be very good at this game, back in the 80's ::) But for now... let's start practicing again :P
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/bezel_gyruss_12.jpg)
Ops, I've almost forgot... WATCH THIS VIDEO TO SEE THE GAME 'IN ACTION' ;)
(I hope you like J. S. Bach's Toccata ::) ;D)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyruss-youtube.jpg) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jISPLFJzUw)
[click on picture to watch the video]
~Enjoy~
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Well, good job with the restoration, but I think you should put the Centuri version in it, not the Konami one ;)
Matteo
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Perfect!!!
Darthnuno .... the KING of resto !!! 8) :spaceace:
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Well done !!!
Question: can you still easily buy those TV's over there and what do you pay for them (or was this your own NOS ? ;) ).
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Another OutStanding Restoration!! :pac: :ghost: :spaceace: Fantastic!!!!
Definately remember the Galaxian type special stage!!!!
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thanks :-*
Question: can you still easily buy those TV's over there and what do you pay for them (or was this your own NOS ? ;) ).
Not anymore since three months :'(
I use to got them at Carrefour, and I even ask them to order TEN more for me 8) These TEN are still in back order, but the seller said to me than there almost no chance to get them one day :(
Hopefully, I've a good stock now of brand new TV... and ... it's funny... I've just got two more today :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/forforum/moretv1.jpg)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/forforum/moretv2.jpg)
Ok, not brand new TV ... but I prefer to have a good stock ;)
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People are throwing away CRT TVs as if they were rubbish nowadays, so I have also picked up a couple.
But still, I would rather want to be able to buy one type, and pay for it. Why? First of all, you never know how many boards the TV contains, and second, you don't know how it functions. Geometry menus, does it turn itself on directly without standby etc..
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@bruno: what kind of tv is that exactly that you're using? i might have a look around over here in germany ...
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I still see 51 cm TV's for sale at mail-order shops like www.Wehkamp.nl and www.Otto.nl but I don't like the price.
For that price, I would only buy new open frame monitors.
I've done the TV solution twice now and I'm not 100% satisfied with it. On my Galaxian, I've got some sync problem. It's "jittery" at the righ (=top) side of the screen. Strange, as this one worked fine on the Centipede before. The Centi now has it's original CRT back in place with a "new" working G07 chassis that I picked up for free in Germany ! :)
What I really would want is to order a freaking pallet of 19" monitors. Nothing to beat a brand new CRT. However, even HAPP in the US doesn't carry them anymore (only 13"). I think the days are counting out for the CRT....
I think the TV solution is a great option, but I'd go only for more modern TV's now that have an electronic set-up menu so you can adjust everything (like the TV's Bruno used). Some older TV's simply don't have the controls to adjust everything needed.
There is also another way: You can get replacement chassis for a good working CRT for little money these days. Check out http://www.grebo.eu/arcadegames/shop/index_eur.htm
They start at only 34 euro. Seller told me he said some people see geometry problems with that one. If you're anal, you should get the bit more expensive one of 55 euro (HQ).
So, if we could order a bulk order of real CRT monitors, would anyone be interested in a couple ?
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What a stupidly big bezel ::), if the company that made the cab had sense they would have put in a bigger telly or made the cab smaller, but still....amazing work as always bruno!!! ;D
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@bruno: what kind of tv is that exactly that you're using? i might have a look around over here in germany ...
Well, the 'best buy' new TV for me are :
- BlueSky BL5126TX :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sald5.jpg)
(see for example the Space Ace resto (https://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=106))
- Manhattan T5106 MAV :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/rolling/rtm10.jpg)
(see for example the Rolling Thunder resto (https://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=197))
- ALTUS 20 BMT :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/dk/peri5.jpg)
(see for example the Red Nintendo/DK resto (https://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=339))
Good picture quality, geometry setting via technician code, 60hz NTSC via scart for a perfect 'ARCADE' RGB picture :-*
Price paid : between 109€ ~ 140€ per TV.
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thx bruno! those infos are worth a lot :spaceace:
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Excellent work on the bezel! (http://www.pachitalk.com/forums/images/smilies/fing02.gif)
I will be restoring a Gyruss later this Summer. This has been good inspiration. I just need to find somewhere to print out the bezel like you did. Also, mine needs a reapaint on the outside so I'll be using stencils to paint.
By the way, the button layout was correct on the original panel. Player two gets a white button. P1 and fire are red.
(http://www.klov.com/images/11/1131343456.jpg)
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By the way, the button layout was correct on the original panel. Player two gets a white button. P1 and fire are red.
Yes, someone else point me that on Klov forum. I'll have to swap two buttons :P
I just need to find somewhere to print out the bezel like you did.
I still have one of the two printed ;) :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyrus_bezel_1.jpg)
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I still have one of the two printed ;) :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/gyruss/gyrus_bezel_1.jpg)
;)
I was about to ask if you would be interested in shipping it to the US, but I think I've found someone over here that can print this on adhesive vinyl. Cost will be about $24 including shipping.
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@bruno: it's great that you have a spare item of EVERYTHING ;D i'd take your spare Galaxian 3 theater then :shock:
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@bruno: it's great that you have a spare item of EVERYTHING ;D i'd take your spare Galaxian 3 theater then :shock:
LOL... I've *almost* got a second Galaxian Theater ;D True!!! See this topic (https://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=122.msg3633#msg3633) :P
Don't tell me I'm crazy please ::) ;D