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General Chat => 'Business' Area : Buy/Sell/Trade => Topic started by: level42 on May 03, 2013, 07:20:53 PM

Title: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: level42 on May 03, 2013, 07:20:53 PM
....might be a nice sticky thread....

Anyway here two tips for the Dutchies I guess....

#1:
I needed a security bit set like this to remove some screws from my Ms.Pac Man marquee retainers, a set like this:

(http://www.gerritse.nl/~images/products/gerritse/642-477/126731.jpg)

I was shocked to find prices like this:

http://www.gerritse.nl/Toebehoren_boren_zagen_slijpen_en_tappen/Schroefbits/Schroefbits_sets/126731/veiligheidsbitsetje_33_delig/

€25 EXCLUDING 21% VAT !!!  

I know, a GOOD quality bit-set is more expensive but this seemed to be one of those cheaper sets....so I dug around a bit more and found this:

(http://cdn.toolstation.com/images/130215-NL/images/library/stock/webbig/92461.jpg?rand=126203398)

And it cost just €4,30 INCL. VAT !!

http://www.toolstation.nl/shop/Gereedschap+accessiores/Bitsets/Veiligheids+bitset+Kort+33+delig/d80/sd650/p92461

Now....I need to use these bits only very rarely, you just need to have them around so I grabbed one of these sets.

Toolstation.nl looks to have other nice prices for loads of tools too. Some brands, some "no name" stuff....they deliver to businesses and private persons and ship for free if your order is over €10
They also have a number of "counters" across Netherlands, I went to the one in Schiedam because I needed the set "now"....

www.Toolstation.nl reminds me a bit of Harbor Freight although these have proper shops AFAIK, toolstation is a web-store with some "counters"  you can visit...

Anyway, worth having a look at !


#2: (this is actually a stolen tip from Etienne, I have to say in all honesty :) :) )

Polyester Putty, often referred to on the US sites as "Bondo" is available from lots of brands....I bought "Alabastine" in my local DIY store:

(http://www.alabastine.nl/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Polyesterplamuur-grijsBlik-Alabastine-620x620.jpg)

This stuff is priced around €13 for 200 gr. Pretty steep IMHO. Also what I REALLY didn't like is that, contrary to the "real" Bondo, the hardener had almost the SAME color as the "main" stuff. This makes it _very_ hard to know if you have mixed it well enough !

As mentioned, Etienne put info about this alternative in some thread here:

(http://www.soriso.nl/images/polyester2.png)

This is for sale at Action stores in The Netherlands (www.action.nl)

The price is only €4 for 485 gr., that's more than twice the volume at 1/3 of the price ! The best thing is, the hardener is RED (just like Bondo) and so it's very easy to know if you mixed it well enough...haven't used it yet but will in a few moments :)

Anyway, it's worth looking around for alternatives for the expensive "A" brands that often you just pay a lot more for just the brand....



Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on May 03, 2013, 08:47:28 PM
Great idea !

And indeed, the bondo is great.

https://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=2828.msg41980#msg41980

Its hard as rock !
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: joeks on May 03, 2013, 10:33:17 PM
Thanks for the tip of the "Action" brand bondo! I am using Albastine Polyester filler right now, this stuff works wonders indeed.
But as you said, you can't tell if you mixed it enough because it's all grey.
Will try the cheaper brand next time! :)

First thing I tried with the stuff was re-create a missing corner on my DK from Thomas' container
Had to fill the begin and end of the shape again (after taking these pics) because I didn't put enough filler in there. But that was no problem.

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4132210/IMG_3045.JPG)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4132210/IMG_3051.JPG)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4132210/IMG_3053.JPG)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4132210/IMG_3079.jpg)
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: level42 on May 03, 2013, 11:03:33 PM
No offense Joeks, but if this threads wants to succeed as a "buying tips" thread (hopefully sticky) we should really stick close to the topic.
I fully understand your enthusiasm over polyester putty and your work pics look excellent but they're a bit out of place for the above reason :)

I just used the action bondo, however I still don't really see any color difference once the "red" hardener is fully mixed into the "main" stuff....I am positive I used enough hardener because the first time I used a bit too much, the stuff was dry within 2 minutes instead of the normal 4....

Made a new batch and it worked fine, actually I am tending to think this stuff is better than the Alabastine...

Oh and of course linking to a different thread or website is just fine  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: McVenco on May 04, 2013, 12:24:26 AM

(http://cdn.toolstation.com/images/130215-NL/images/library/stock/webbig/92461.jpg?rand=126203398)

And it cost just €4,30 INCL. VAT !!

http://www.toolstation.nl/shop/Gereedschap+accessiores/Bitsets/Veiligheids+bitset+Kort+33+delig/d80/sd650/p92461

Wow, thank you VERY much for that tip!! I was actually looking for a few of those bits or screwdrivers, this is just what I needed!  :)
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: level42 on June 20, 2013, 12:36:24 AM
My next tip:

After pretending I never needed this I decided to get one.... a "Molex" pin extractor. You need this tool if you want to easily remove pins from the well known Molex connectors often used in harnesses.

Naturally I wanted to pay close to nothing and this is the cheapest I found:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Male-Female-4-Pin-Molex-Power-Connector-Pin-Remover-Computer-Wire-Extractor-Tool-/150883008517?pt=US_Computer_Case_Accessories_Tool_Kits&hash=item2321540005

The best part it's for both 0.093 and 0.062 sizes.



I still would love this thread to be stickied Bruno :)
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: Muerto on June 20, 2013, 12:42:33 AM
I have wondered if a tool like this existed - thanks!!!!

-EDIT- just bought one!!! And, please sticky this thread!
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: anunaki on June 20, 2013, 08:15:56 AM
Great tip, I bought one right away
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: level42 on June 20, 2013, 09:25:11 PM
LOL, they must be wondering where all those north-west Europe orders come from ;)
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: ckong on June 20, 2013, 10:14:48 PM
Great tip, I bought one right away

me too!  :)
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: anunaki on June 20, 2013, 10:41:36 PM
not sure if this will preserve the molex connector, hope so
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: level42 on June 20, 2013, 10:44:48 PM
Yes that's the whole idea, else you could just as well cut the wires :P

It's nothing more than a small "pipe" that will slide over the pin, between the pin and the connector hole. It will push down the "ledge" that keeps the pin locked in the connector. So you slide this over a pin and then you can pull the wire out, pin connection intact, ready to be put.....somewhere else maybe :)

And we're stickied yeaaahhhh  ;D
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on June 20, 2013, 10:45:50 PM
not sure if this will preserve the molex connector, hope so
You mean the plastic part or the pin ?

it should, because thats why its invented  ;D

the "locking" of the pins you can bend out back in position very carefully with a small screwdriver or some other flat small tool if they are not "locking" anymore..

and no, i did not order one  :D

EDIT:  Level42 posted while i was typing  8)
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: Luigi on June 21, 2013, 08:16:07 AM
I will see if I can make one myself ;)

So there is the female side that can be seen and it's for removing the pins from the socket. But what is the male side for?   ???

Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on June 21, 2013, 08:26:03 AM
i think thats also a female side, but with a different diameter  ;)

The best part it's for both 0.093 and 0.062 sizes.
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: Luigi on June 21, 2013, 09:13:57 AM
The auction text says:

Quote
It has both a male and a female side.

Since it has only two sides there is no side left for a female side with different diameter  ;D



Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: Laszo on June 21, 2013, 10:10:20 AM
Great tip, I bought one right away

me too!  :)

Me too  :D

Getting these pins out is a pain if you have to use a screwdriver or something like that..... Cutting the wire won't do the trick, the old pin will still be stuck in de housing... So far I could only find really expensive onces.... Great tip André.... I finished digging by the way :)
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: anunaki on June 21, 2013, 10:41:43 AM
The auction text says:

Quote
It has both a male and a female side.

Since it has only two sides there is no side left for a female side with different diameter  ;D





Why so negative  ;D
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: level42 on June 21, 2013, 10:55:13 AM
The auction text says:

Quote
It has both a male and a female side.

Since it has only two sides there is no side left for a female side with different diameter  ;D

They must be mistaken. What good would a "male" side do (in this case ...) ??

It just works for male and female the same way after all the "back" part of the male and female terminals are the same and that is what this tool works on.

P.S. not sure if €5,50 is worth a lot of your time ;) But I can see the challenge, I've heard people made their own. But you got the skills and tools :)

So, I expect it to have two female sides, one 0.093" the other 0.062" but those work for both male and female pins....
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: Superully on June 21, 2013, 12:25:06 PM
i bought the exact same extractor tool about three years ago - it broke after the fifth pin!!! like with a lot of other stuff, i'm (mostly) done buying cheap stuff, i invested a lot more money in really good extractor tools and they work perfectly. good luck to you guys, hope the tool holds ...
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on June 21, 2013, 12:28:48 PM
...it broke after the fifth pin!!!

thats € 1,10 per pin, not a bad deal if you have tried the screwdriver method like i did/do  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: Laszo on June 21, 2013, 06:43:47 PM
i bought the exact same extractor tool about three years ago - it broke after the fifth pin!!! like with a lot of other stuff, i'm (mostly) done buying cheap stuff, i invested a lot more money in really good extractor tools and they work perfectly. good luck to you guys, hope the tool holds ...

Now he is telling  :P
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: Luigi on June 21, 2013, 06:55:44 PM
i bought the exact same extractor tool about three years ago - it broke after the fifth pin!!! like with a lot of other stuff, i'm (mostly) done buying cheap stuff, i invested a lot more money in really good extractor tools and they work perfectly. good luck to you guys, hope the tool holds ...

So where exactly did it break, where has to be made an improvement?
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: level42 on June 22, 2013, 12:34:41 AM
i bought the exact same extractor tool about three years ago - it broke after the fifth pin!!! like with a lot of other stuff, i'm (mostly) done buying cheap stuff, i invested a lot more money in really good extractor tools and they work perfectly. good luck to you guys, hope the tool holds ...

Now he is telling  :P
+1 ;) Oh and you shouldn't try to bend it of course ;) ;) ;)

Well if mine will break I'll order one from Germany. Can't beat German quality.   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on June 22, 2013, 12:13:08 PM
You make me curious how it can break, the only way i guess it only can break by excessive bending/handling.

the only thing you do with this "pipe" is releasing the locking by sliding it over the pin which in turn presses the lockingclip.

after that you can pull the pin out from the connector on the wire side and it should slide out of the tool while you do that..

Luigi, i know you are a great engineer, maybe you can make this version :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZUoqO29RsQ

That seringe system look to do the job perfectly !
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: ebarlow99 on July 02, 2013, 07:26:14 PM
I use one of these

(http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n91/ebarlow99/Arcade%20Tools/70399.jpg) (http://s110.photobucket.com/user/ebarlow99/media/Arcade%20Tools/70399.jpg.html)

http://www.vehicle-wiring-products.eu/VWP-onlinestore/terminalsnonins/mouldingterms.php
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: level42 on July 03, 2013, 07:02:00 PM
I like those....those don't get lost so easy....

Mine arrived today,

(this one (https://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4483.0;attach=4125;image)

just like I expected there are two different sized female tubes on both ends.

I tried two pins, works fine.
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: Muerto on July 03, 2013, 08:50:18 PM
received mine the other day, cool little "toy" :)
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: level42 on July 05, 2013, 05:10:22 PM
Nice cheap test monitor for B/W games or an ideaal candidate for another Etienne McGyver project:

http://www.baco-army-goods.nl/restantpartijen/monitor-composiet-video-ingang.html

Looks like it is one of those old videophone (CRT) monitors so don't expect the best of picture quality....

Found this company while looking for 2"/50mm. capacitor clamps for Atari Big Blue's. Although plastic these might work, at least they are cheap and for like a workbench power brick where originality doesn't matter it should be fine....... shipping within Holland pretty expensive though....

http://www.baco-army-goods.nl/restantpartijen/monitor-composiet-video-ingang.html
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on July 05, 2013, 06:53:57 PM
are those CRT ?

anyway, looking at the picture, this is below my quality standard  ;D

Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: level42 on July 05, 2013, 07:34:28 PM
are those CRT ?

anyway, looking at the picture, this is below my quality standard  ;D


Yes, the picture is beamed from the lower part, see here:

http://www.tradekorea.com/product-detail/P00006737/Video_Door_Phone__SM_400_.html#

I've seen some of these and quality of the picture is indeed not the best....but if you just want to see if anything is going on its nice......and that price.......it's almost free :)
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on July 05, 2013, 11:27:24 PM
i guess the quality of the bare CRT is better ? its worth a try for that price..
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: level42 on July 06, 2013, 12:01:45 AM
Yeah, I think maybe the picture quality was more bad because of the used simple cabling and it's length.

Out of technical interest only this is a nice price.
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: level42 on November 26, 2013, 11:32:13 PM
If I'm not mistaking these are very nice for Nintendo cabs:

http://www.smallcab.net/screws-round-head-square-neck-bolt-p-395.html?osCsid=73c98ad82496ef07a9ee48aaa10bc553#.UpUexZEntwI

....and it's actually damn hard to find them even here in Europe. Great price !
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: Q*ris on November 27, 2013, 04:45:44 PM
Well spotted André!
Damn good price indeed but watch out for the crazy shipping/handling fees on Smallcab.
16€ of shipping/handling for ONE button to Belgium.
Aouch!
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: gyruss on November 27, 2013, 04:49:48 PM
If I'm not mistaking these are very nice for Nintendo cabs:

http://www.smallcab.net/screws-round-head-square-neck-bolt-p-395.html?osCsid=73c98ad82496ef07a9ee48aaa10bc553#.UpUexZEntwI

....and it's actually damn hard to find them even here in Europe. Great price !

nice, i could use one. :)
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: level42 on November 27, 2013, 08:14:38 PM
Well spotted André!
Damn good price indeed but watch out for the crazy shipping/handling fees on Smallcab.
16€ of shipping/handling for ONE button to Belgium.
Aouch!
oh I knew there had to be a catch....groupbuy ? I think I need a couple for my Nintendo.
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: Q*ris on November 28, 2013, 06:57:27 AM
PM sent. They are sold out of them on smallcab ATM.
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: level42 on December 31, 2013, 12:30:10 PM
Too bad I already got my birthday present....

Been trying to work with my antique Hitachi scope again but it has too many issues to be anything close to reliable.

I was looking for another old good working analogue scope but then thought about a digital scope I'd seen before when searching the KLOV forum. It is the Rigol DS1052E which is VERY affordable and offers a LOT of advantages over an old analogue scope (compact, light-weight, measuring wave forms and many many more)

http://www.batronix.com/versand/oszilloskope/Rigol-DS1052E.html



(http://tndperm.ru/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/rigol_DS1052E.jpg)


It's not like Agilent or Tektronix stuff, but it is extremely affordable and has a lot of great reviews on the net.

It is 50 Mhz, which should be enough for our hobby, but the cool thing is that with a flash-hack you could change it to a 100 Mhz scope ! (I'd only do that after the warranty period I guess...there is 3 year warranty by the way !)

It also has an X-Y mode so it's good to display vector games too :) (no Z input I guess, but I don't care for testing).

The idea of having a 100% reliable brand new scope with so many great features is really tempting.... ;D
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: Laszo on December 31, 2013, 12:34:06 PM
Really tempting indeed....
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: level42 on December 31, 2013, 12:51:50 PM
Let me know if you're going to buy one, with ordering 2 units there is no shipping costs. Batronix has the best price I found and that company looks really trustworthy.

Sending you a PM Leo :)

Jeez, there are loads of hacks for this thing:

http://hackaday.com/2012/10/10/giving-the-rygol-ds1052e-scope-a-spectrum-analyzer/

50 to 100Mhz hack:
http://hackaday.com/2010/03/31/update-50mhz-to-100mhz-scope-conversion/

The hack doesn't work with the latest firmwares but you can downgrade the firmware and then apply the hack...

And this is pretty awesome for us too: Play Pong on it ;)
http://hackaday.com/2011/12/31/homebrew-on-the-rigol-ds1052e-scope/
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: kroustibat on January 05, 2014, 08:02:16 PM
Let me know if you're going to buy one, with ordering 2 units there is no shipping costs. Batronix has the best price I found and that company looks really trustworthy.

Batronix is really trustworthy, i did a translation of prog-express for them (thanks for the tips andre), and i got a bx48 for my work. Really cool guys
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: level42 on January 05, 2014, 09:49:15 PM
Yeah, shame that Dutch is already done !
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: Laszo on January 06, 2014, 04:25:50 PM
Dammm I looked at the site...... The Rigol DS1052D is also very tempting.... Any opinions?
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: level42 on January 06, 2014, 08:23:34 PM
Yes but above my budget. Reviews also seem to say it's not ideal as a Logic Analyzer.

You know, on this video you see the inside of the 1052E:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sO5iGwHpmHc

At.5.58 he mentions a 40 pin header that he doesn't know what it's for. If you look at the location, I guess it's pretty clear that this is the location where the 1052D has it's logic analyzer inputs ! So I bet that on the 1052D there is either just a flat cable or maybe there is on extra add-on board there...
If it would be the first than that would be very interesting because maybe the E could be flashed to a D (just speculating here !)

By the way, this video is nice, but how-on-earth can a guy like him NOT mention what caps they used ?!?!?! I think it is MUCH more likely they used el-cheapo caps than that they tried to find some bootleg copies of the necessary chips (IF these exist at all).

What DID happen is that another Chinese company copies the Rigols. The brand is Atten.

Anyway, I am in doubt if the logic analyzer part would be worthwhile for me. Any insights in this ? (Robin, Speleo ?)


Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: level42 on January 09, 2014, 11:02:23 AM
Wanted to make some promotion for this excellent webstore:


www.allekabels.nl

Alle kabels means "all cables" and well......all is a big word, but they have an insane catalogue of all sorts of cables at good prices. Yes, you may find them a bit cheaper on far-east websites but with those you have to wait for weeks and sometimes longer and customer service is a nightmare.

I ordered various things at www.allekabels.nl and I ALWYAS received them the next day. (You can order up to 21.00 to get next day delivery).

I recently wanted to order a monitor cable for my Atari 8 bit machines and due to some confusion in the information of that item I accidently ordered them at 0,2m. length which is of course way to short. It was partly my fault because the detailed description DID mention it correctly. However is sent them a message through their site, got a reply the same afternoon (on a Saturday) and they fully charged back my money incl. shipping costs so I could order the correct cables. I didn't even have to send back the wrong cables !
They had also corrected the info right away on their site.

Now that is what I call a great way of customer service, happy customer = returning customer.

Regretfully their website is in Dutch only but they DO ship internationally.

OH, and a tip on the Atari 8 bit video cable: I used to think that you needed a special cable, make yourself one, but it turns out I could order the standard DIN to 4x tulip cables. They have the correct pin out and because you have 4 tulip outputs you get 1 for audio, 1 for composit video and 2 for Y/C (or S-video) so it is truly universal cable. It even works with the old C64s that had a 5pin DIN video output.
The productnr. is 684 and it costs €3,80. Look under Audio kabel and then DIN kabel to find it, be sure to get the 1,2m. Long one ;)
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: level42 on January 30, 2014, 08:41:24 PM
Couldn't resist....this is on it's way to me:

(http://image.ec21.com/image/benetechco/oimg_GC05739208_CA05739427/Non-Contact_Digital_Infrared_Thermometer_-50_900'C_GM900.jpg)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=161078122903&ssPageName=ADME:L:OU:NL:3160

One of the things I want to prove with it is how much difference new thermal grease makes under (f.i.) bottle (TO-3) transistors.....and it's just fun and useful for other stuff :)

Found this because I noticed a similar one being on offer at the local Lidl. This one has more features and is cheaper though :)

About €20 shipped....and I don't need 0.1 accuracy....

This would be even more fun but the price is just not right :) => http://www.ebay.com/itm/Extech-Instruments-FLIR-i3-Infrared-Thermal-Imaging-Camera/380824205528?rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D163%26meid%3D4488588877836493821%26pid%3D100005%26prg%3D1088%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D2%26sd%3D231146635700%26
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: Laszo on January 30, 2014, 10:32:37 PM
Love to see if you can sniff out broken ic's.
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: level42 on January 30, 2014, 10:34:42 PM
Mmmm....maybe :)

A thermal camera would be awesome for that.....then again....usually your fingers are pretty reliable for this test ;)


How about the Rigol ? I want one !!! (but I bought too much shit already this year ;)) Can you put it on your business, saves VAT ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: level42 on February 09, 2014, 10:47:52 PM
Inspired by john's arcade video's on youtube:


http://www.saturn.nl/mcs/shop/dagdeal.html


...couldn't resist......ordered.....

I always use hand screwdrivers because the battery screwdriver I've got from my work is usually in my car AND too big for most of the arcade cab work....
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: Q*ris on February 09, 2014, 11:08:21 PM
I haven't seen John's video but I unfortunately own this Bosch IXO and the first time I used it the "ikea bit" broke.
Then the flat ones too a few days later.
It is weak and discharging super fast + the "screw/unscrew" button is so poorly placed that you hit it everytime you grab the tool.
My advice would be to pay more and buy a nice Makita that you will enjoy using.
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: Superully on February 09, 2014, 11:12:50 PM
i've got the blue bosch version, cost a lot more but is so much better (although the button thingy that chris mentioned is the same)! use it a lot, especially to drill holes in places were a normal drill would not be able to reach ...
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: level42 on February 09, 2014, 11:29:26 PM
No problem, sounds like I'm going to return it.....

Bit surprised that Bosch has such quality issues....

Yes I know the blue Bosch stuff is better (= professional series) and I think Makita is actually even better.

Thanks for the advise guys !!!!
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: Q*ris on February 09, 2014, 11:36:10 PM
I was also surprised… and disappointed 'cause it was my very first "father day" present.
For small jobs it's OK, I still have it and use it (I replaced the bits for better ones), but really an IKEA furniture seems the limit for this baby.
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on February 10, 2014, 11:33:28 AM
Are you going to flow solder ??

(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/dagdeal.jpg)

Inspired by john's arcade video's on youtube:


http://www.saturn.nl/mcs/shop/dagdeal.html


...couldn't resist......ordered.....

I always use hand screwdrivers because the battery screwdriver I've got from my work is usually in my car AND too big for most of the arcade cab work....

seriously, you can get those from "Esso points" but like chris says, you definetly need to change the bits asap.

we have one here at a customer, and i am surprised by the strength of this 3.6V screwdriver...
Okay, its not for Ikea furniture, but for our application its as good as my Panasonic...

(http://shop.panasonic.com/images/product/2013/ey6220n/EY6220N_400.png)
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: level42 on February 10, 2014, 01:20:17 PM
Yeah, The link I posted changes every day because it is a "day deal". Usually its just the regular price though...

Hunting for something better already ;)
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: level42 on February 11, 2014, 08:28:50 PM
Yeahhhhhh, picking up a Makita tomorrow for the same price as the Bosch (used of course).
Advantages: 80 piece bit-set, nice professional case for everything, Makita quality
Disadavanges: Ni-Cd batteries (WTF, do these still even exist....hellllooooooo Makita, wake up !!!), no nice "charger stand", loose adapter you have to plug into the unit, clumsy and prone to failure......helllllloooooo Makita....wake up !!! ;)


The Bosch was tried to deliver today....it will go back unopened.
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: level42 on February 11, 2014, 08:30:08 PM
OK.....now nobody has an excuse anymore for not owning an ESR meter:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Digital-Capacitor-ESR-Tester-Capacitance-Equivalent-Series-Resistance-Meter-50-/300993695021


(http://i1270.photobucket.com/albums/jj620/dykb1982/haru/sdfshahafers-5.jpg)


I have no idea about the quality, but I bet it is made on the same basis as all the other good ESR meters.

Major drawback: where are the test-leads ?? Handy guys will solder some themselves though :)

Another drawback: only goes up to 2200 uF.....no testing Big Blue's with this baby...
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: anunaki on February 11, 2014, 10:37:53 PM
Andre, I know this is to test caps. What is ESR and why does it say "ESR = Too High"?

help a noob out, It looks like I can use a device like this
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: Belike on February 12, 2014, 07:27:21 AM
Andre, I know this is to test caps. What is ESR and why does it say "ESR = Too High"?

help a noob out, It looks like I can use a device like this
https://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=3051.0
 ;)
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: anunaki on February 12, 2014, 07:34:59 AM
tx  :)
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on February 12, 2014, 09:45:04 AM
Thanks for the tip Andre, i am now also a member of the ESR Meter club  ;D

Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: anunaki on February 13, 2014, 02:26:08 PM
I order one too, so I can measure the caps on some monitors I have
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: level42 on February 13, 2014, 06:44:20 PM
Cool guys.....I did notice it only goes up to 2200uF which isn't particularly high.

However, until now, I have found 0 bad caps under the big one's, it's the small one's that go....
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on February 14, 2014, 08:54:09 AM
Not a problem for the purpose i use it.

there is only one chassis in this list that has 2 caps that exceed the 2200 µF value

http://www.juniorsrevenge.com/MonitorCaps.html

if i ever come across one of those, i guess its not a problem to just shotgun those and replace them.

Electrohome G05-801
===================

C100 - 7200uf 50v
C101 - 7200uf 50v
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on March 01, 2014, 04:00:37 PM
Did any of you guys that orderen that ESR meter already received it ?

I have not seen anything yet...  :-\
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: anunaki on March 01, 2014, 04:19:02 PM
I didn't get it yet
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: level42 on March 01, 2014, 05:25:50 PM
Haven't seen the IR temperature meter either.......I guess it just takes very long with free shipping.

I wanted to open a dispute nevertheless because I don't want to end up loosing my money but ebay says it's too early because expected delivery date is march 6 (!) and if I haven't received it by then I should open a dispute.
I left a negative feedback anyway, just I case, I can always change it later....
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on March 06, 2014, 01:24:00 PM
Received mine yesterday.

Tried some loose old caps i had lying around, and 4 of the four say its OK
one failed, it says cap leaks, so i guess its working  :D

the 3 caps measured where
680uF and the meter said 713 uF,
1000uF and the meter said 1168 uF,
and the last was 100 uF and the meter said 112 uF

now i need to make some case and some connection for testleads
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: anunaki on March 06, 2014, 01:31:36 PM
I also got it, but had no time to check it out
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: level42 on March 07, 2014, 10:13:46 PM
Those values are waaaaaayyy within the 20% tolerante that caps have so thats looking good :)

Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: level42 on March 07, 2014, 10:15:49 PM
Couldn't resist....this is on it's way to me:

(http://image.ec21.com/image/benetechco/oimg_GC05739208_CA05739427/Non-Contact_Digital_Infrared_Thermometer_-50_900'C_GM900.jpg)

Still hasn't arrived. Already gave a negative feedback (no response from seller) and I opened a dispute about it today. I want my hard-earned money back !
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: level42 on March 08, 2014, 10:46:10 AM
....of course......guess what just got delivered.....:)

Case closed and feedback changed...

First impressions:
- shipped in a plastic envelope with some protective foam and bubble bag....no box but no damage at all.
- build quality is better than expected looks and feels pretty rugged
- display is good quality, good backlight
- first results look pretty reliable

It actually arrives at a great time as I rebuilt (just some parts, not much work) another Amplifone board and for some reason the Y-deflection transistors run extremely hot....this will be a good test-case :)
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: level42 on March 30, 2014, 10:44:13 AM
Well.....my dear old Asterock will be leaving my home next Monday. I am a bit sad about this because I am really very fond of that machine for several reasons you guys all know by now, but I'm happy it's going to a very good home :)

On the up side, it will allow me to invest the money into a brand new scope.

I mentioned before I was looking into the Rigol 1052 but I have decided to buy another one.

Before I buy stuff I always investigate a lot on the net and so I found out about this one, the Owon SDS7102V

http://www.batronix.com/shop/oscilloscopes/Owon-SDS7102V.html

Now, there are some "reviews" about this one that don't favor it much, but those guys seem to be what I call "spec horny". I do not need laboratory precise measuring results, I need it for basic repair work and relatively low frequencies. Some reviews also deal with the slower versions of this scope so their main complaint about it being slow is not true for this model. It's 100Mhz out of the box so no need to do dangerous hacks like the Rigol.

So why this one instead of the Rigol ? Well first of all I really really like the much bigger screen. I'm getting older and my view is not getting better ;)
Second.....it's possible to run this scope on a battery which is really really nice when working in/around the machines. The battery is not included and not cheap but I read about guys making their own.

I also like that there are seperate knobs for the channels. I really don't like that you have to switch between channels and use 1 knob on the Rigol, that will be annoying very quickly.

Anyone have any bad experiences with them ?
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: level42 on April 01, 2014, 08:16:02 PM
Hey scope lovers ! Yes I know you are out there ! ;)

I just ordered a scope....but not the Rigol, not the Owon, but this one:

(http://www.conrad.nl/medias/global/ce/1000_1999/1200/1220/1224/122485_BB_00_FB.EPS_1000.jpg)

http://www.conrad.nl/ce/nl/product/122485/VOLTCRAFT-DSO-1062D-Digitale-Oscilloscoop?

Yep. Voltcraft. It's the same as the Hantek/Tekway (and numerous other names it is sold under.)

Why ?

Well, first of all it's quite a bit cheaper to get than the Owon SDS 7102V (which is €425 incl. shipping from Batronix). The Voltcraft is only €299 incl. shipping.
It has about the same screen size but from what I've seen and read it's quite a bit faster than the Owon.

It is also very easy to hack to a whopping 200Mhz !
For this scope you can find tons of hacks, info and programs all over the net. For the Owon I can find almost nothing, especially no hacks...
I could have gone for a cheaper Owon but that would leave me with a 0,5GSA/S scope, compared to the Voltcraft at double that rate.

I also looked into getting one from Ebay directly from China but what in case of warranty plus a big risk on import duties and taxes, not only making the price even higher but also delay delivery even further.

What do I loose ? I loose mostly battery function but I have been thinking about that. Wherever there's a running cab, there is mains power. Yes it will be a bit more cumbersome but really not impossible to use it that way. It will be bench work mostly anyway.
Also it does not have a VGA out, but apart from the "geek" factor I don't have a use for that anyway.

Lastly, I have a 30 day trial period from Conrad so that is nice, if I really don't like it I can always return it.

It's kinda strange that it is actually so cheap at Conrad because Conrad is not actually know for low prices. Want an example ?

Remember that I bought this:

(http://image.ec21.com/image/benetechco/oimg_GC05739208_CA05739427/Non-Contact_Digital_Infrared_Thermometer_-50_900'C_GM900.jpg) ?

Cost me less than €30. Conrad sells the same unit as Voltcraft: http://www.conrad.nl/ce/nl/product/100920/Voltcraft-IR-900-30S-infrarood-thermometer?queryFromSuggest=true

Did you see the price ? €109 !!!!!! The only difference is that it is grey instead of yellow !!!

Anyway, I looked around but buying a Hantek/Tekway directly from China is almost certainly more expensive and definitly taking MUCH longer...

Should have it in a couple of days.
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on April 01, 2014, 09:59:47 PM
Goodluck with the new toy  ;)
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: Laszo on April 01, 2014, 11:39:50 PM
 :D money spend well, keep us posted.
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: level42 on May 04, 2014, 08:33:13 AM
Those wicked Chinese keep coming up with some awesome and cheap stuff.....

This tests about everything, transistors, caps, resistors,diodes etc. etc.

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NTMzWDcxMQ==/z/k58AAOxyeR9TJefz/$_12.JPG)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-white-LCD-Transistor-Tester-Diode-Triode-Capacitance-ESR-Meter-MOS-PNP-NPN-/121321520302?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c3f537cae

For a little bit more also with cool blue background LCD:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Transistor-Tester-Diode-Triode-Capacitance-ESR-Meter-MOS-PNP-NPN-/121296374687?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c3dd3cb9f
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: level42 on May 06, 2014, 11:33:35 PM
Couldn't resist: ordered !
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: Laszo on May 07, 2014, 01:14:58 AM
Couldn't resist: ordered !

Keep us posted
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: Ronald Reagan on May 09, 2014, 08:44:53 PM
Level42? I dont know, maybe someone else here?

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Op dit moment hebben we twee vacatures voor veilingmeester bij Catawiki. Het gaat hier om betaalde part-time of full-time functies die vanuit huis gedaan kunnen worden. Het is wel belangrijk dat u echt een expert bent, ervaring hebt en een goed netwerk heeft in het verzamelgebied. Bent u geïnteresseerd? Stuur dan een mail met uitgebreide motivatie en cv naar info@catawiki.nl t.a.v. Tammo Meedendorp.

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Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: Superully on May 09, 2014, 08:46:11 PM
Op dit moment hebben we twee vacatures voor veilingmeester bij Catawiki. Het gaat hier om betaalde part-time of full-time functies die vanuit huis gedaan kunnen worden. Het is wel belangrijk dat u echt een expert bent, ervaring hebt en een goed netwerk heeft in het verzamelgebied. Bent u geïnteresseerd? Stuur dan een mail met uitgebreide motivatie en cv naar info@catawiki.nl t.a.v. Tammo Meedendorp.

i vote YES!!!  :P
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: Ronald Reagan on May 09, 2014, 09:01:00 PM
Its like a job-add, for an auction-master/auctioneer? concerning arcademachines/pinballs.

it says: YOU MUST BE AN EXPERT :)
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: level42 on May 10, 2014, 02:02:36 PM
Awesome ! Seriously gonna give it a try, just for the fun !
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: level42 on May 10, 2014, 08:14:32 PM
Mmmm, dont see those job offers here :

http://www.catawiki.nl/help/jobs


?
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: level42 on May 25, 2014, 12:04:55 PM
Those wicked Chinese keep coming up with some awesome and cheap stuff.....

This tests about everything, transistors, caps, resistors,diodes etc. etc.

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NTMzWDcxMQ==/z/k58AAOxyeR9TJefz/$_12.JPG)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Transistor-Tester-Diode-Triode-Capacitance-ESR-Meter-MOS-PNP-NPN-/121296374687?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c3dd3cb9f
Received this about a week ago and it is as nice tool for sure. However there is one problem with the one I got. Of course, this unit has a bootleg ZIF socket. For those not knowing: a ZIF (Zero Insertion Force) from a reliable manufacturer (Textool, 3M) costs about the same price as this entire device. So it's not hard to figure out that despite the Textool name on the socket, this is not the real product but a fake.

These fake one's are available on ebay for cheap prices. The one on my tool does not work properly. I can turn the little handle 360 degrees which should not happen. Also, the socket does not clamp the parts to be tested firmly. This results in unreliable test results. I had to manualy push the parts to the clamps to get any results at all.
So I contacted the seller and he's sending me 2 new sockets. I was so kind to say I would solder it myself. Of course this product should arrive in perfect order but hey....I want it to work.

I don't have very much confidence in the other two sockets he's sending because these are bootlegs too of course, I might end up soldering wires with crocodile clamps to the unit which might be handier anyway.

Apart from this all it seems to work nicely for sure. It indicated some of the bad caps from Béla's WG6100 deflection board correctly, those are not electrolytic caps so these are not indicated correctly to be bad with my Russian ESR tester.,however that one works better with electrolytic caps AND can also test in circuit, which this multi tester can't.

So both tools compliment eachother nicely, will make a video and full report once I got a proper working socket.
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: level42 on September 22, 2014, 11:51:18 PM
Want:

http://www.edsyn.com/product/DHT/DS017LS.html

For a change, relatively affordable available locally:

https://www.conrad.nl/nl/edsyn-soldapult-deluxe-desoldeerpomp-antistatisch-810940.html

Pretty sick and tired of the cheap small solder sucker I'm using now.

Watched some of Johns' videos lately and I recognized the solder sucker he used:
When I fixed cheap Taiwanese VGA monitors  for a job I had one of those, came with the workshop tools and I remember I loved it. It's very very good quality, powerful, big and easy to maintain. This is also the anti-static version, not really needed but Conrad doesn't seem to carry the regular version.

Now...how to convince the tools-guy at my work that I need one for the job ;);););)
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: level42 on September 23, 2014, 12:23:17 AM
Hmm, better deal here:

http://www.reichelt.nl/DS-017/3/index.html?&ACTION=3&LA=446&ARTICLE=7183&artnr=DS+017&SEARCH=Edsyn
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: Luigi on September 23, 2014, 08:21:25 AM
Thanks for the link, André. I wanted to remove a connector from an old Atari adapter board (Dominos) and found out that even my 10€ solder sucker really 'sucks' big time ;)

Next time I order at Reichelt I will add this to my shopping cart :)
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: Laszo on September 23, 2014, 08:02:23 PM
Thanks for the link, André. I wanted to remove a connector from an old Atari adapter board (Dominos) and found out that even my 10€ solder sucker really 'sucks' big time ;)

Next time I order at Reichelt I will add this to my shopping cart :)

I still praise the day I invested in a desoldering station.... So much easier and no more f***ed up pcb's.

Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on September 23, 2014, 10:17:54 PM
+1! Nothing beats a desolderstation imho
But, these things get the job done too and they are better than the regular cheap soldersuckers
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: level42 on November 01, 2014, 10:29:54 AM
Look what my wife bought at Action. I must say it was because she discovered the power of the Korean magic sponges that I bought in bulk and she used up quite a few in the house.......

99 Eurocents for 5 and they are larger than the one's I had from Korea. Haven't tested them yet but.....don't see why they would work any different.

www.action.nl
www.action.be
www.action.de
www.action.fr

Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: level42 on January 31, 2015, 01:32:19 PM
Been looking for the stuff that Superully uses for restoring bad wood parts, Borma Wachs Holzhärter....

(http://www.bormawachs.com/408-large_default/liquid-extra-strong-stripper-radikal-abbeizer.jpg)

Here is the factory link. Company is in Italy:
http://www.bormawachs.com/gb/restoration/221-liquid-extra-strong-stripper-radikal-abbeizer.html


I could find one source in The Netherlands but they are way too expensive. Also, you have to buy 1 liter minimum and I think I need less of this stuff since I only need to do some corners on my Q*bert.

So, here's a German webshop that also sells smaller quantities:
http://www.kreativwerkzeuge.de/index.php?HHGsid=141e0dd3373002d680b57432a3ec2e3e&SEQ_TOKEN_501013acf1214dd933fbf0a20285e977=8cb4e4f63a945b3fbf4ff8e259363e51&module=search_result&keywords=borma&x=0&y=0

I mailed him and he does do international shipping for very reasonable prices, 250ml = €5, 2x250ml = €7 (to The Netherlands, ask him for your country).
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: level42 on February 17, 2015, 05:51:23 PM
Received 250ml. Of the Borma Waxhs Holzhärter today.....I found out this webshop is very near to a well known place for me.....I had to LOL when I discovered it.

I noticed that it seems like February is "sell your Müter rejuvenator month" in Germany......

http://www.ebay.de/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2047675.m570.l1313.TR2.TRC1.A0.H0.Xmüter.TRS0&_nkw=müter&_sacat=0 (http://www.ebay.de/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2047675.m570.l1313.TR2.TRC1.A0.H0.Xmüter.TRS0&_nkw=müter&_sacat=0)

More and more pop up.....I saw one go for less than 6 euro !!!

The best one's (or should I say easiest to use) are the 95 and 2005.
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: Wurstkopp on February 18, 2015, 02:12:46 PM
Thanks, but the link is not working.

I will use this for the weak wood in my Robotron (fucking worms):
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Vosschemie-Yachtcare-G4-Holzversiegelung-Haftgrund-fur-Estovoss-PU-Lack-1-L-/400033687917?pt=Bootsteile_Zubeh%C3%B6r&hash=item5d23dda96d

I tried it on a wooden and pretty rotten box with many worm holes. It hardens the wood and kills everything inside. I have painted the box with this stuff and after 10 minutes all kinds of strange insects came creeping and dying out of the gaps in the wood.
There are like 5000 warning signs on the tube. :lol:
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: level42 on February 18, 2015, 05:29:26 PM
Pics or it didn't happen....


Just do a search for Müter on ebay.de

:)
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: Wurstkopp on February 18, 2015, 06:53:47 PM
Coming soon. Finally managed it to bring to the cab from my gameroom to the place where I live. :)
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: Nic-fryer on March 01, 2015, 07:56:24 AM
Paint colour scanner that links to you phone. No more taking the cabs to Home Depot.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/soldermaster/node-chroma-an-accurate-bluetooth-40-color-sensor (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/soldermaster/node-chroma-an-accurate-bluetooth-40-color-sensor)
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: level42 on March 01, 2015, 11:27:50 AM
No more taking the cabs to Home Depot.

Booooooooooohh ! ;)

Looks nice but......I've done two color matched paints now and both were matched by one of the most advanced color detecting devices in the world which can't be bought for any money.....some of them are actually so beautiful I find it hard not to stare at them and they are called Human Eyes.

The Ms.Pac blue was absolutely perfect....and judging from the primer color, the Q*bert yellow is looking spot on too.....

But......Nice idea for sure.
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: blackie63 on March 03, 2015, 01:24:12 PM
Hi Fellas can you tell me where you get your replacment locks for your machines, having just drilled out 5 im in need of some replacments :shock:
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: level42 on March 03, 2015, 03:03:09 PM
Search and you will find.....

https://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=3857.0

However, I'm starting to have some doubts about these....they are STC product but I've had two fail now...
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: level42 on March 15, 2015, 11:26:27 PM
Needed still some parts for the Q*bert PSU and found that Reichelt had them. Had seen them at www.flipperwinkel.nl but they were cheaper at Reichelt and the shipping was the same BUT Richest accepts PayPal....and also....I could include a tool I really wanted because the small tin-suckers I have used so far all show problems in the long run...:

(http://cdn-reichelt.de/bilder/web/xxl_ws/D200/DS017.png)


I had worked with one like this before at a job I had many many years ago and it SUCKS ! I mean, it doesn't suck but it sucks ;)

Yeah yeah yeah I know about those fantastic desoldering stations but I don't have the budget for one right now....all in good time ;)

Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: Wurstkopp on March 27, 2015, 06:06:02 PM
Sounds great, I'll order one immediately. Mine sucks, I mean it's shit. :lol:

BTW: Here's the link:
http://www.reichelt.de/Entloetpumpen-litze/L-TSAUGPUMPE/3/index.html?&ACTION=3&LA=2&ARTICLE=96333&GROUPID=556&artnr=L%C3%96TSAUGPUMPE
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: level42 on March 27, 2015, 07:12:51 PM
WHAAAAAAAAT €2,39 ??????????

I payed €13.50 and that already was a crazy low price.....that must be a mistake, right ??


If not BYE ONE NOW, YOU WILL NOT REGRET IT :)
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: level42 on March 27, 2015, 07:29:02 PM
Huhhhh, they seem to have it listed twice.....this is the one I ordered:

http://www.reichelt.nl/DS-017/3/index.html?&ACTION=3&LA=446&ARTICLE=7183&artnr=DS+017&SEARCH=Edsyn

Dunno, maybe the cheaper one Is a smaller version ? But it says 330mm which seems the same size......

2,38 is nuts !!!! I'm thinking of ordering one or two more for that price......

I had ordered an extra tip when I ordered mine but that tip alone is more expensive ?!?!

[edit] I just measured mine.....exacly the same size ! I need some electronics parts anyway so I'm ordering 2 more of these, nice for work too :):)
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: level42 on April 06, 2015, 12:55:45 AM
The ultimate power supply for 60in1 boards !

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Black-AC-Adapter-12V-5V-For-HARD-DISK-Drive-HDD-CD-DVD-ROM-Power-Supply-New-/111617770761?ul_ref=http%3A%2F%2Frover.ebay.com%3A80%2Frover%2F0%2Fe11401.m1842.l3160%2F7%3Feuid%3D36f5638eeeec4bfda45a3bb247f0b1e1%26loc%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fcgi.ebay.com%252Fws%252FeBayISAPI.dll%253FViewItem%2526item%253D111617770761%2526ssPageName%253DADME%253AL%253AOU%253ANL%253A3160%26srcrot%3De11401.m1842.l3160%26rvr_id%3D0&ssPageName=ADME:L:OU:NL:3160


Well I hope.....insanely cheap. Handy, just plug it into the power supply socket of the 60in1 board :)

No expensive/large switching power supply needed.....

Ordered two, let's see what quality we'll get.....;)
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: joeks on May 04, 2015, 08:47:17 AM
Yup, looks handy.
When I installed a 60-in-1 pcb in my DK scratch-build, I used a standard switching PSU with custom harness (chopped of loom+connector from a standard PC psu).
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: level42 on May 04, 2015, 10:08:16 AM
I bought a couple of them and I opened one. The build quality isn't the worst thing I've seen, actually pretty decent although no, it does not have a CE, TUV, KEMA or any other labels that indicate it's safe to use. I guess for this goal (powering a 60in1 pcb) it's fine because you normally don't let it run unattended.

Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: joeks on May 04, 2015, 10:36:39 AM
I see no problem and would use it myself on a future project I think.
Saves money and time of building a harness to a switching psu.
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: level42 on May 04, 2015, 10:49:44 AM
If you want one let me know. I have 2 or 3 here now but I didn't need to use the one I was thinking of using.
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: joeks on May 04, 2015, 10:52:28 AM
Thanks, but don't need one at this moment.
Might need them when I start a mini-cab scratch-build later this year though.
I will let you know.
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: level42 on May 14, 2015, 10:01:18 AM
Because I found my Atari (blue) neon way too bright (almost white looking, and totally shining up my gameroom, which is not a good thing, believe me  ;D) I did another search for a solution to dim it.

There are no external dimmers for neons (and if they are there, they won't work with the modern switching one's). The one's I've been seeing around are priced at around the 50-60 dollars mark but this time I was lucky and found this:

(http://www.evertron.net/SP230V/226V.jpg)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/230V-EVERTRON-6kV-Neon-Power-Supply-Transformer-50-/160962651020

Looks to be good quality one's "Evertron" claims that they are manufactured in Kansas.... www.evertron.net / http://www.everbriteonline.com

They normally are around 50 bucks but it looks like they need to dump these because they are 230V _AND_ are not ROHS....so they go for 13 bucks each. I ordered two, not a bad idea to install the second one on the Pac Man sign.

Figured others might be interested too.

 Datasheet here: http://www.evertron.net/SP230V/006_0083.pdf

One word of warning: operating it below 45% may reduce the neon's life. But I guess around 50% will be just fine.
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: level42 on May 25, 2015, 10:48:42 AM
These arrived. They are indeed US built and look high quality. They are also typically American sized, so pretty large for a supply that must power a small neon....hope they'll fit.

There are also no rubber boots on the wires, hope I can transplant these.
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on May 28, 2015, 11:34:14 PM
My wife send me this vid by Facebook, looks handy  ;D

(http://img.youtube.com/vi/hv160AGH0AE/0.jpg) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hv160AGH0AE)
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/player.jpg) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hv160AGH0AE)


http://www.power8workshop.com/index.php
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: joeks on May 29, 2015, 02:36:17 PM
Haha what a great thing, he made it look so easy. Wonder what the quality is like.
Probably better stick with my Bosch and Black and Decker powertools :)
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: ckong on May 29, 2015, 03:46:03 PM
Quality? Almost certainly shit.
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: Nic-fryer on May 29, 2015, 03:53:38 PM
If you watch really closely you can see that the end of the video where he is packing up is just the beginning of the video played backwards
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on May 29, 2015, 07:12:27 PM
Ha ! indeed, you see the handle of the bag flying up to his hand  ;D ;D :D
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: level42 on June 04, 2015, 12:29:57 AM
Enough to not want that thing :)

Back on the neon power supplies: here's the effect of it.....I am REALLY happy :)

By the way, the color is much more BLUE in real life, the sucky Samsung camera just fucks up here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpuEY6uEOVk&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: level42 on June 10, 2015, 01:42:56 PM
Here's a Nice tip for a soldering station. I've read about Metcal soldering stations on US forums. Looks like they're the Rolls Royces under the soldering stations, including the price.

The big difference between a regular station and the Metcals is that they use radio frequencies to heat up the tip. How it works is explained here:
http://www.okinternational.com/metcal/english/globalnavigation/applications/hand-soldering/what-is-smartheat

There are a number of advantages with this design:
- quick heat up time
- very stable temperature, the moment you touch the parts you want to solder the heat gets increased very quickly.
- very small handle
- no heat in handle

Because of cost and lack of availability of them here in Europe (I had never heard about them until I started this hobby) and price I was never that interested but imagine my surprise when I was going through Reichelt's catalogue and finding this:

http://www.reichelt.nl/Soldering-Stations-XYTRONICS/STATION-LF-3000/3/index.html?&ACTION=3&LA=2&ARTICLE=110450&GROUPID=4543&artnr=STATION+LF-3000

http://www.xytronic-usa.com/MANUALS/LF-3000_flyer.pdf

Looks like it uses at least a similar technology, or maybe just the same but the price is a lot nicer.

I'm currently not in the market but this would be a very nice station for sure.

Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: level42 on June 13, 2015, 09:19:28 AM
Well the "mystery" of the "expensive" and cheap desoldering pumps has been solved.

I had to order other stuff from Reichelt so I included one of the cheap ones...

Turns out that.....it's a fake. Wow....I was still surprised by it.

First thing I noticed was that the packing was completely different.

The other differences are clear: The original is lighter blue, the push button differs in shape (original better and more comfy) but otherwise it's pretty close. That is....in looks.

I won't say it is the worst tin-sucker I've ever used, but.....well.....mmmmm....it may actually seem to work just as well as the original but...there's this feeling....when you push the button....there just seems to be more power and solidness about the original Soldapullt.

IMHO, the original is worth it's money BY FAR. In fact....I wouldn't change it for any clumsy desoldering station. Just MHO but yes I've worked with them :)

The original is less than 16 euro...it's worth every cent.
The fake is less than a new tip of the original (less than 3 euro) but....naahhhh....the difference is in the important details...

What did surprise me is that it is Velleman (famous of electronics kits) who markets this fake Chinese knock-off....pretty weird IMHO.

Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: level42 on June 13, 2015, 09:20:23 AM
More pics:

Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: Luigi on June 13, 2015, 10:14:55 AM
Thanks for comparing and posting....I'm glad I could resist to order one at Reichelt :)
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on June 13, 2015, 10:17:39 AM
Made in "PRC"

Punk Rock Caveman ?  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: Q*ris on June 14, 2015, 09:39:48 AM
Good to know, thanks!!!
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: Wurstkopp on June 14, 2015, 12:54:46 PM
Made in "PRC"

Punk Rock Caveman ?  ;D ;D

I wonder where exactly "in" him.
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on June 14, 2015, 03:18:52 PM
LOL, i think i should refrase myself, "In Punk Rock's Cave"  :P
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: Wurstkopp on June 14, 2015, 03:29:40 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: ckong on July 19, 2015, 09:03:34 PM
....so I dug around a bit more and found this:

(http://cdn.toolstation.com/images/130215-NL/images/library/stock/webbig/92461.jpg?rand=126203398)

And it cost just €4,30 INCL. VAT !!

http://www.toolstation.nl/shop/Gereedschap+accessiores/Bitsets/Veiligheids+bitset+Kort+33+delig/d80/sd650/p92461


Wow, price has gone up, to €4,39!!  I will still get one, after I find something else to get to a total ordervalue of € 10 (yeah, free shipping).
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: ckong on July 19, 2015, 09:05:51 PM
I want a component tester, cheap.

which one is to be preferred, specs wise:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/271717084549?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

or

http://www.ebay.com/itm/361089083465?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

I know, one comes in a nice housing, but I don't care about that. I care more about specs, and price of course.
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on July 19, 2015, 10:17:04 PM
Wow, price has gone up, to €4,39!!  I will still get one, after I find something else to get to a total ordervalue of € 10 (yeah, free shipping).

You may order one extra of these for me, i am sure we will meet again in the near future ;)
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: ckong on July 19, 2015, 10:18:32 PM
Wow, price has gone up, to €4,39!!  I will still get one, after I find something else to get to a total ordervalue of € 10 (yeah, free shipping).

You may order one extra of these for me, i am sure we will meet again in the near future ;)


will do.  :)
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: philmurr on July 19, 2015, 10:27:52 PM
I want a component tester, cheap.

which one is to be preferred, specs wise:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/271717084549?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

or

http://www.ebay.com/itm/361089083465?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

I know, one comes in a nice housing, but I don't care about that. I care more about specs, and price of course.

You might also want to have a look at this one, tests all sorts of chips, transistors, etc. and identifies unknown ones.  I bought one a while ago and it's proven to be really useful http://www.ebay.com/itm/Transistor-Tester-Detect-IC-Meter-Maintenance-Digital-led-Tester-MOS-PNP-NPN-/271718397385 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Transistor-Tester-Detect-IC-Meter-Maintenance-Digital-led-Tester-MOS-PNP-NPN-/271718397385)
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: level42 on July 20, 2015, 10:53:58 PM
Nice one ! Think I saw it before somewhere. Wonder how many 74 chips it recognizes....
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: level42 on July 24, 2015, 08:48:38 PM
Mmmm, since I already have a good tester for all those analog parts I don't need that anymore.....so I searched eBay a little and found this one:

This one seems also more aimed at our hobby (74 series) and it does not only ID the device but also indicates if it's good or not and what gate is defective.

It's also cheaper but of course lacks a case....
This one does list the devices it supports, sadly the 74245 is missing but it looks pretty complete otherwise...

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=271634652740&globalID=EBAY-FR
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: level42 on July 25, 2015, 01:17:17 AM
Just ordered this....I actually searched for it because I wanted something to check the condition of the stylus on my record player, but this also will be handy for PCB inspection etc.

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=351049187710&globalID=EBAY-FR

Crazy price....free shipping....

Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on July 25, 2015, 11:11:23 AM
that is indeed nice to have in the toolbox, and for that price and free shipping you cannot go wrong i think  :D
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: level42 on July 25, 2015, 11:34:48 AM
that is indeed nice to have in the toolbox, and for that price and free shipping you cannot go wrong i think  :D

Exactly my thoughts ! :)

I was also somewhat tempted by one of those USB microscopes but figured that I would never use that for my record player stylus (need to be able to check very regularly and quickly) and that hooking it up is clumsy every time you want to use it.

Would be nice for making PCB pictures but then again, my camera has been doing great Macro photo's when needed :)
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on July 25, 2015, 12:08:01 PM
i clicked on "buy now"   ;D
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: level42 on July 25, 2015, 01:05:56 PM
LOL :)

It's so cool....these days I'm actually quite well organized with my arcade tools. I got a new "suitcase" for my tools from work (one with wheels and a long handle so I don't have to lift the heavy weight...hey daddy's getting older ;)) and I kept the old one....although really not too good anymore it's still good enough to house about all my arcade tools and this one will still fit nicely in there :)

Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: ckong on July 25, 2015, 01:31:59 PM
i clicked on "buy now"   ;D

+1 LOL
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: level42 on August 13, 2015, 07:32:47 PM
Mine arrived today...the tiny box was thrown in a bubble envelope and shipped across the globe....naturally the box was crumbled but the microscope survived fine.

First of all it was much smaller than I had thought.

Second, it actually works quite nicely !

I was pretty shocked at what I saw on my record player stylus yugh !

Also looked at PCB solderings and ROM pins today....quite nice. The LED is a great help.

You do have to put it almost against the object you want to see but if that's possible it's great for the price :)
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on August 14, 2015, 11:16:07 AM
Yep, got mine too, you can pull out the viewpart and focus with that also.

LED is great.

nice little thing in a nice little pouch.

Daddy like.
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: level42 on August 14, 2015, 05:25:27 PM
Wow, just had a look at the double-wipe sockets on the Asteroids board.....from the top they looked rather Ok, but once I bent out both pins and looked at the inside (where they make contact with the chip pins) WOW ! Some amazing black gunk there !

No wonder this causes resets.

While replacing the sockets used the mini microscope to check the holes after desoldeing the old pins and again after soldering.....it's remarkable what this thing reveals.....yes I reall like this little fella !!
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on August 14, 2015, 09:49:37 PM
I like the size and pouch.
not to mention the super high price of 2.20 €  ;D
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: anunaki on August 14, 2015, 09:59:38 PM
Now that you have approved it I made the investment too
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: lesoleil70 on August 14, 2015, 10:37:20 PM
Now that you have approved it I made the investment too
same here looks perfect for my ageing eyes, but that seller would not ship to the UK, so found it here for £1.75 shipped from China!, same product.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5X-45X-60X-100X-Mini-LED-Eye-Jewelry-Loupe-Unfold-Magnifier-Microscope-Fashion-/300905942347?var=&hash=item460f644d4b (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5X-45X-60X-100X-Mini-LED-Eye-Jewelry-Loupe-Unfold-Magnifier-Microscope-Fashion-/300905942347?var=&hash=item460f644d4b)
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: level42 on August 15, 2015, 12:30:28 AM
Weird that he will ship to Europe but not to the UK....oh well...plenty more sellers...
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: level42 on August 26, 2015, 06:56:46 PM
I am bad. I just bought this.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/24MHz-8CH-USB-Logic-Analyzer-8-Channels-USB-Logic-Analyzer-Compatible-to-Saleae-/190956566562?
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on August 26, 2015, 09:15:36 PM
does that come with software ? or is that downloadable ?
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: level42 on August 26, 2015, 09:48:43 PM
Uhh.....ahumm......uhh......ahummmm......... :oops:


 ;D
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: ckong on August 28, 2015, 02:43:07 PM
Yep, got mine too, you can pull out the viewpart and focus with that also.

LED is great.

nice little thing in a nice little pouch.

Daddy like.

But don't view little insects with them, They look huge and scary like hell, even insects of 1 mm!!!  :shock: :shock:
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: level42 on September 02, 2015, 08:53:10 PM
I am bad. I just bought this.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/24MHz-8CH-USB-Logic-Analyzer-8-Channels-USB-Logic-Analyzer-Compatible-to-Saleae-/190956566562?

Wow that was fast, received it today....downloaded the software (latest) release and WORKS :D

Well....it correctly seem to capture the samples, have not hooked it up to actual signals yet...
Title: Re: Buying tips for the hobby
Post by: Laszo on September 03, 2015, 12:46:45 AM
I am bad. I just bought this.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/24MHz-8CH-USB-Logic-Analyzer-8-Channels-USB-Logic-Analyzer-Compatible-to-Saleae-/190956566562?

Wow that was fast, received it today....downloaded the software (latest) release and WORKS :D

Well....it correctly seem to capture the samples, have not hooked it up to actual signals yet...

Lets test it at Eurocade..... I will bring my Centipede board  ;D